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No. hold on. >> look at -- >> you cant come on the air and say that susan rice is disseminating -- nobody said that except for you. its not fair. part of what we have to be able to -- >> van, remember, from all st d standpoint and our being defender of the administration, you have evelyn farcus who said she wanted to tell her friends in the political world to get the information out. >> what does that have to do with susan rice? >> she left in 2015. >> she did. why -- how did she know there was ...