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Analogy, describe how 2024 hillary could potentially play out? >> joe: it could play out where joe biden, in his 80s, is asked, step ark side, you did what you were supposed to do, made sure bernie didnt get nomination and donald trump is no longer president. hillary clinton will be 77 by that point. i would imagine kamala harris would make run for the primary, open primary, kamala harris and gavin newsom and hillary clinton and hillary did get as many votes as she did in 2016, she is the establ...