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many levels as you point out. thank you very much. it was a special day for the players that made that trip today to the white house and it was fun to see them there. we had an opportunity to watch some of that. have a great night. we will see you back here tomorrow night for "the first 100 days" ." >> i'm dana perino, thanks for watching us tonight. before we get to the other big stories of the day, we want to address the situation many of you may already be aware of. del o'reilly, who hosted this program for 20 years is leaving the fox news channel. we know that you, his very loyal viewers will have a lot of feelings about this and we will talk more about it later on in the program. but first, the trump administration by hearing a loud shot over the bow of iran. secretary of state rex tillerson delivering forceful remarks that the state department today making clear the administration's tolerance their belligerence and provocation is growing thin. >> iran is the world's leading state-sponsored terrorism. is responsible for intensifying multiple conflicts and undermining u.s. interests in countries such as syria, yemen, iraq, and lebanon. continuing to support attacks against israel. an unchecked iran has the potential to travel the same path as north korea and take the world along with it. the trump administration has no intention of passing the buck to a future administration on iran. the raven stomach evidence is clear, there actions threaten te united states, the regions, and the world. the trump administration is currently conducting a comprehensive review of the policy. once we have finalized the conclusions, we will meet the challenges they propose with clarity and conviction. human joining is now with reaction from washington, josh crush howard, and with us in studio, rick. now syria replaces iraq on that big list. it's clear that this administration wants to have a more muscular foreign policy, they want to contrast themselves with the obama foreign policy, which every foreign policy hand and the trump administration used is only wanted to use diplomacy, not even wanting to touch the military options and the trump administration is clearly eager, talk the big game and the threat of military action against our enemies. >> dana: another thing that secretary tiller's and said today is he made very clear that this wasn't just about the nuclear weapons program that we think they're trying to get. they are doing a lot more when it comes to supporting terrorists, that they are -- alarming and ongoing provocations that export terror and violence. this comes just right after president trump authorized the military to send in 59 tomahawk missiles into syria, which we know iran has been helping them. >> josh: these are not subtle messages. i think the secretary of state, to listen, we are seeing him come into view, he has not been very public in his comments. he has not been very assertive, but that seems like a policy that he has a lot of influence over. it seems like trump is going through this prism of tellers and apostrophes worldview and his ideas and i think you were seeing a change. even the statements today it struck me as so different that he would have seen three months ago at the beginning. >> dana: certainly for the last eight years. this is a different kind of language, you don't even have us at the state department. lots of adjectives and special words that you put in. josh, i will ask you something about the timing, because the last two weeks, president trump has taken very decisive action on foreign policy. this has coincided while the members of congress have been on recess. when they get back together next week, there's changes on the foreign policy front and i'm wondering if that helps the republicans have more confidence about the trump agenda moving forward with the democrats more emboldened get whatever they heard back in their districts? >> josh: having a tough foreign policy, the hawkish foreign policy is one that unites the republican party with the possible exception of rand paul, who was more isolationist. that gets the john mccain conservatives aligned. if donald trump's approval with republicans has stabilized and gone a little bit higher in the last week. is now above the 80% full point with republicans, the base is starting to get behind him. we saw from the georgia election last night the republicans showed up to vote, they're actually getting behind president trump. it's a good sign for republicans, trump's numbers are still pretty worrisome, but at least the republicans are coming home and foreign policy is a big part of that equation. >> dana: rick, can i take that momentum and turn it into domestic policy wins when they get back, big issues on my plate? >> rick: they like trump as commander in chief. this unifies the party. it gets them on the same page. that does not translate to the issues in a very easy way. just as important as the georgia election results, what we are staying out of the town halls and the blowback against president trump personally and trump administration policies, that will still be first and foremost in the mines. i haven't seen evidence of a whole lot of progress, there will be another push on health care, tax reforms, we haven't seen enough details to say that they are suddenly on the move. this helps in terms of unifying the party, getting something to cheer for. >> dana: what about the democrats, josh? they have been in a "just say no" mode. when they went back to their district, did they hear anything different that made them think maybe we ought to come to the table and at least try to get something done on tax reform and health care? >> josh: on the plus side for democrats, their base is supercharged. they want to show they are angry at trump and it will do anything possible to show their dissatisfaction. on the negative side, they really don't know what they stand for yet and we are seeing some pretty big provisions between the progressive faction of the party and the more moderate faction of the party. they know what they are against, they don't really know what they're for it. trump is really engaging democrats all across the company, country and that is a good sign. >> dana: what you think about that, because i'm curious about the democrats in the wilderness, how did they get out of it? >> rick: i don't think it's by following trump. i don't think it's by signing on to some of these initiatives. >> dana: felt a need to get some -- company to take back something to their district to say i actually did something while i was in washington? >> rick: i don't think democrats are feeling the pressure right now. the pressure they're feeling is the opposite direction, resist donald trump, don't help them out, don't give him any wins. discount that means nothing gets done. >> rick: there we are. >> dana: rick, josh, thank you both. up next, elizabeth warren taking it not so veiled shots at hillary clinton. our democrats finally cutting ties with the clinton legacy? we will debate it when "the factor" comes right back. ugly 2016 loss behind it. >> we cannot shoot at everything that moves. when donald trump -- remember in the movie up, the dog. when healed squirrel, we cannot all go over there. [laughter] >> what i mean by that, really, we have to keep the focus not on what he says, not on what each week, we have to keep the focus on what he actually does. >> dana: is my apology to the jimmy, that was jimmy fallon, not jimmy kimmel. joining us now with reaction from washington. along with democratic strategist don calloway. so glad that you are both here. now that the democrats are sort of looking, getting the 2016 election behind them and looking forward to 2018, and somebody was a book out is looking towards 2,020, are they trying to figure out a way to let the clinton legacy sort of fade into the background, kiersten i will let you go first. >> absolutely, and i can't believe i will utter the sentence, but i think there was way to move left or move forward, what's the next move? >> clearly the head of the party is secretary tom perez, who was just selected to be our party chair and his deputy jamie harrison. we expect exciting things out of them. secretary clinton's legacy get cemented not only as an american leader but as a global leader. her place in the annals of not only american, but world history is very secure. senator warren knows that. i don't think she said anything disrespectful to second clinton's legacy last night. i think that when we consider the bubble of d.c., it's important to consider that the leadership of our democratic party is not only secretary perez and senator schumer and those here in d.c., but it also happens on the local level. when you see dynamic individuals like jones. randall woodson in birmingham. that's a substantial part of the democratic message, which can be an active part of the trump resistance taking place right now all across the country. we can't forget the local levels and finding and elevating those local leaders, not only just here in d.c. >> dana: does trump resistance, if they stick to it, does that lessen their chances of being able to win back states that they lost with wisconsin, pennsylvania and michigan, which were very different this time for democrats and went parked on the potomac donald trump, not for a lot, but decisively? >> kristen: it will be choosing to pursue a brand-new map in the way that donald trump pursued a brand-new map for republicans during this last election and surprised everyone, going after states that work sought comic thought that republicans couldn't win, he pulled it off. for democrats to win, they will have to decide do they want to go back and fight to pull those dates back in the blue category, pick back up wisconsin, pick back up michigan, do they decide trying to win over the white working class, the voters in the states that rejected hillary clinton, do we abandon that and instead try to piece together a majority in places like florida, faces like colorado, north carolina. states where there is demographic change that may favor democrats long-term. they have to make that choice, which path do they think they will try to pursue and that's going to be decided in large part by who they choose to be the face and leader of the party when it comes to four years from now. >> dana: do they have to choose, or can they do both? >> don: i think we can do both and i think we've already made a choice. that's a very mush mouth answer, but the reality is there's one unified party message. we are seeing that message with secretary perez, we are seeing that message in the 57 state strategy. we will see a unified democratic message that speaks the same to urban areas as it does to the farmers in iowa. opportunity, inclusion, equal access to the balance box, women's right to choose, and i don't think we will see a fragmented democratic message and the identity politics that plagued the democratic party somewhat of the last ten years is done. we will see a unified message throughout the party over the next ten years and into the future. >> dana: last night in the georgia special election, both sides are claiming that they won, or that they were victorie victories. kristin, why did the republicans think this is a big one method of besides the fact they were able to hold off the democrat? >> kristen: there's a chance to bring another republican woman to washington. i know personally that's why i'm pretty excited about the fact that karen handel won -- is going to be moving into the runoff as a republican candidat candidate. look, i do think that republicans need to be a little nervous. this is exactly the type of district where if democrats do want to take back the house, it will be districts like this where they do it. on the other hand, i think the expectations have been raised so much by all sorts of money and interest coming in from hollywood and the democratic and progressive base all around the country that try to nationalize this one little special election that for democrats not to have won out right has to kind of a disappointment for them and now we move onto the next phase in june where i think republicans are slightly favored to hang on. for a free quote today. liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance. >> dana: and a personal story segment tonight the first dreamer deported under president trump. the left experience after deportation of juan manuel montes, the 23-year-old, an illegal immigrant from mexico. he had received deportation protection from the deferred action for childhood arrivals program, first started by president obama. the white house is pushing back against a volley of criticism. speak with the goal and the focus has been on people who pose a threat to national security or in some other way in violation. i would respectfully suggest that in this particular case the facts are not completely out yet so i would rather not jump to judgment on what's happening. >> dana: joining us now with more for miami is alan gomez, immigration reporter for usa today, he broke the story about juan manuel montes. tell me a little bit, how did the story come to be, because it seems like there are some gray areas in his case. >> reporter: gray areas, it definitely safe to say that. basically what happened is we heard about his case, we wrote about the case and then we started getting reaction from the department of homeland security. basically what they initially said after we published the story is that juan manuel montes lost his daca status in 2015 so that he had no protection, no problem, they could arrest him, they could detain him, they could deport him no problem. today, they changed the story and said actually he did have daca status, but he violated it by leaving the country. his attorneys would respond by saying he violated it by leaving the country because he was deported. that's what we are facing right now and that's what we're trying to get some clarity on. >> dana: i know the d.a. is pushing back on the headline, and i know you don't write the headlines. the "usa today" say the violation and that it was all of the fault at dhs. his lawyers are saying that he didn't leave the country without being forced to. how can we clear this up so that we can get some more clarity? is the judge in the case going to get information right away so that we can figure this out and understand what the policy is going forward from the trump administration? >> alan: exactly. a lot of this is going to depend on this federal lawsuit. basically the attorney for juan manuel montes, for over a month they've been asking for customs and border protection to release information about what happened that night. to explain why he was deported, how they encounter him and under what grounds they decided to deport him on. they have not responded to those requests. at yesterday attorneys filed a lawsuit in federal court in the southern district of california trying to ask the judge to compel customs and border protection to release all their records. we've been getting this sort of piecemeal little by little account of what happened that night, but what they're doing is trying to get the full account of what happened so we get the bigger picture and can really understand exactly what happene happened. >> dana: do you think that dreamers out there it might not understand what the rules are, that they need to make sure that they have permission in order to leave in order to come back to is there an education problem that needs to take place in? >> alan: no. i can tell you every daca recipient i've ever spoken to it knows that fact very well. in order to leave the country you have to get something called advanced parole. basically it's permission from the government to leave the country so that you can come back into it. i don't think -- i think that point is very clear to all of them. they are all very protective of their status, they want to maintain it. the vast majority of them i would think know very well that that's the case. what happened here with mr. montes is that basically he said he was picked up by cbp, and he was deported and a couple of days later he try to reenter the country. at that point, that's when dhs says that he had violated his -- the conditions of his daca, he violated it, so he was -- they were able to deport him, but again, his attorney say the only reason he left the country, and he had not left the country prior, the only reason he left is that he was deported. they say how can you say that he violated his daca when you deported him and then said now he's in violation of his daca? >> dana: 's the department of homeland security is certainly pushing back on that. we will continue to follow. thank you for coming on to make an excellent reporting. >> alan: thank you. >> dana: fox news contributor steve cortez. with us in studio, kathy ulrich, publisher of catalina magazine. what you think happened here, it seemed to me it's not clear cut. >> is not clear cut, but he is not an illegal immigrant, he is here illegally until 2018. he said he was hailing a cab after going to a restaurant and at that moment he didn't have his papers, which at this is not a show me your papers state. it is not illegal to not have your license or i.d. with you. at that .3 hours later he was thrown out of the country. he is a legal status and in the homeland acknowledge that he was supposed to be here until 2018. legally he could be here until 2018. they switched their stories. he is a legal residence of this country that was deported to mexico within three hours. >> dana: steve, dhs is saying that he left, he did so without getting the permission and they were well within their rights in order to do this. what you make of it? >> steve: i would also take umbrage with cassie, kathy saying he is a citizen. he's not a citizen. >> cathy: resident. >> steve: i have great empathy. they were brought here by the parents, it was not other own volition. i have no such sympathy for adults who willfully break the immigration laws. i say this as a trump artist as a hispanic, regal immigrants are a treasure to the united states, illegal immigrants are a scorch upon our land. it is part of why trump won this recent election and he is delivering on his promise, securing the border and illegal crossings have dropped dramatically, deportations are up dramatically and he has promised to get dangerous illegals out of there immediately. in the case of mr. montes. the facts are disputed, he will have his day in court. let's just say he's right, and i happen to believe only security, but let's say he's right. that would be one person out of 800,000 daca people that we mistakenly deported. that's a pretty darn good record. >> dana: i think it's clear that president trump is not trying to target them. >> cathy: he said he has a heart and he make his campaign promise that he would never deport daca citizen -- resident. he has had three -- they've actually been detained in this country, two other cases of dreamers who have been detained. this is scary i think for everyone, not just a hispanic, i think everyone should be a little bit afraid that if we don't have papers on us we will be thrown to mexico? >> dana: may be what it is is that there just has to be some tightening up of the process. i do think that if you will ramp up and enforce the law that there could be a situation where you have cases like this one where it's murky, or unclear, and when you say that it's -- that he will have his day in court, that's true and i hope that it's quick because as kathy was saying, he should have been allowed -- i guess he saying he never should have been deported. they are saying he left willingly. >> steve: let me just say this. >> dana: we need to know what happened. >> steve: in defense of president trump, he comes under constant criticism from the mainstream media that he is somehow anti-hispanic, and that's completely untrue. he preserved daca and got almost no credit for it. i think he showed great heart and preserving daca because again, they had no say in the fact that they came here, he is going to get control and is already getting control of our immigration system, which it was a foundational campaign promise that he ran on, but he's not in the business of looking for people brought here as children to kick them out without good reason. >> cathy: if this case is true, then he did not keep his campaign promise. >> dana: he's not the one actually making the arrests and doing the acting. the three people feel compelled that they could do this? that scary under a trump administration that they could do this. >> dana: everyone jumps to conclusions before we actually have the facts. i will switch to a different topic really quickly because there is a report out in "the washington post" talking about a meeting down in miami where they are trying to figure out should we be a sanctuary city or not? where do you think that has had a that almost seems like just the threat of taking away federal funds to century city's is actually spring some action. >> cathy: study show that century city's are actually safer than other cities because people feel that they can report crimes, they feel that they are part of their communities so immigrants actually a semifaster if they feel part of their community. if people are shutting their doors are not talking to police, sanctuary cities are historically safer than other cities. >> dana: it is against the law law. >> steve: i hate even this term of century city. they should be called renegade cities. it's not sanctuary for the victims of crimes, if not sanctuary for the cops who have to deal with dangerous illegal immigrants who don't belong here in the first place and then on top of that, are dangerous to communities. by the way, the communities they are most dangerous to our latino communities in general. i will give you a terrible example from just over a month ago. a young, beautiful hispanic-american mother named sandra duran was mowed down in cold blood by a man named alvarado who had been deported five times. one of the reasons i think that he was able to remain at large in los angeles is because guess what, it's a sanctuary city. americans are saying enough. >> dana: what about cases like that, kathy? >> cathy: there are so many men who commit crimes, so what are we going to say, there are so many men and get rid of all men? >> steve: hold on. >> cathy: not every element dominant illegal immigrant comm. >> steve: you don't have the right to be here in the first place. on top of this -- >> cathy: law-abiding citizens who are paying taxes. they've been here for years, most immigrants have been here over ten years and are law-abiding citizens. >> steve: if i'm having a party at my house, and somebody uninvited shows up at on top of that they start breaking things, guess what? you are out. >> cathy: it would probably be a man, not a woman doing it. >> steve: that doesn't matter to me. >> dana: without gender wrapped up in here. cathy, steve, thank you so much. interesting issue. new pulling out over president trump handling over north korea and syria. stay tuned. syria and north korea, a new survey by a harvard university and terrace poling asked residual voters about his handling of the military strike in syria. 60% approve, only 40% disapprove. on north korea, voters were asked if diplomacy is unsuccessful, would you favor or oppose air strikes on the country's nuclear facility? 45% favor, 55% oppose. drawing is not from washington to analyze his mark of the harris poll. it marked, voters often send mixed messages when it comes to use of force. in syria it had already happened, and there was a gasp was used and that seemed warranted. and north korea, nothing has happened yet. i would imagine that if something were to happen, that poll would change. what do you think you might >> mark: president had to leave whenever they use force. by nature americans don't want to use force, they don't want to get over involved. think that what you see what he did interior cut 66% overall approval, 66% in a bowl of 2,000 registered voters, they said that he was justified in what he did. they are approaching north korea slightly differently. a little bit of trepidation there. they are not optimistic that the policy will succeed. if it fails, they are hesitant to see him use a military strike because of what the repercussions of such air strike could be. they are nervous. don't nevers about all the consequences. what about the overall approval rating for president trump in this poll? >> mark: we have it at 48%, a slight tick down, probably it was farther down right after health care, came back up after syria. what's happening is the widening gender gap. it's really only% of women approve of the job he's doing, 57% of men. this is a pretty big split, and i think obviously men were impressed marked by the strike that happened on syria by his use of the military. in general we are looking at an increasing gender gap. i think that's of great concern for the administration. 41% approval among women is a real problem when women are the majority of voters in this country. >> dana: putting on your other head, which is our strategist hat, when you're trying to help some buddy move up in the polls, if you were advising the president or his team about how to improve those numbers, do you have any advice? >> mark: i think women are looking to see the president, not just deal with bread-and-butter issues of concern to them, education, health care, but they're also looking to see him reach out to democrats on the other side. 80, 90% of voters women want to see him reach out to the women on tax reform. they want their parties and the presidents to put america first in the sense that they are going to put their party second. i think whoever does that is going to get significant political support. >> dana: it's interesting, in the first block we had rick klein from abc news and he was talking about he doesn't think the democrats feel any pressure at all to try and meet him halfway. even a president trump or to try to reach out, weatherby democrats were willing to work with him? >> mark: there might or might not be, but just taking a position consistently and earnestly. i work with president clinton and newt gingrich and clinton attacked each other all day, but in the evening they negotiated. that's what the country is looking for. it's unmistakable in the polls that while there maintaining artisan splits in the election, they really want somebody to go break through the partisanship here. >> dana: one of the things you say that people like us 71% of people want tax reform. can we all get together on that one? >> mark: if that's where there's a big opportunity for the administration. we went through in the polls, the outlines of trump's plan, and fewer rates, top rate of 33%, getting rid of the amt, capping deductions. 71% favor that plan. can he make that a political reality? he failed on health care despite 70% wanting to see modifications on obamacare. can he succeed here? that's a big question mark. we will at least have to try to reach out to democrats, if he doesn't, i think you have a repeat of health care. the one we know there wasn't a lot of support for the health care bill repeal and replace bill as it was designed a month ago. still a strong majority once the president to address obamacare and do they want it repealed and replaced or do they just want it fixed? where are they on that? >> mark: the public, i think on the one hand they say keep going, president trump, try to do something about health care. what they really want is lower premiums, more choice in health care. they are concerned about the cost increases. they like the coverage, they like the medicaid expansion. the president had a program that ryan announced was the worst sold program i've ever seen. basically through people off and didn't really bring premiums down in any reasonable time. i think that was poorly sold. even if he gets that done now, i don't know what good it does him, compared to actually driving through tax reform and infrastructure. >> dana: what about another topic that the president talks about, we just did a segment on immigration. i'm curious what people thought about immigration and has tougher stance on it. when it comes to illegal immigration and criminals in particular. he said he's going to build that wall, what are the people say? >> mark: first of all, remember that american upper public opinion is textured, juse they favored syria but opposed going to north korea, they think that sanctuary cities in the sense of not telling authorities about somebody arrested, doesn't make sense, 80%. if 27% also think there should be a path to citizenship for pee who are here and paying taxes and doing the right thing. opinion, you can find an opinion on each side, they really want comprehensive reform at the end of the day. >> dana: what about the wall? >> mark: people do not like the wall. at 62% oppose the wall. they think even democrats would be right to hold of the budget if he doesn't take up the wall. it's a poison pill. it's probably his least-like proposal when he has great potential for tax reform both on the corporate and personal sides. extreme tax reform it is. we will take tax reform behind door number one. mark, thank you so much. next on the rundown, the mainstream media despises president trump. mike huckabee will be here. don't go away. shown during the weekend celebrations to mark the birth of leader kim jong's grandfather. it pictured the simulated nuclear attacks, getting this, wiping out an unidentified american city, ending with a cemetery and american flags engulfed by flames. it was reacted at with applause. your thoughts on that video, mike huckabee? >> mike: one of the things i think we have to learn from history is that if you have somebody who was a leader of a country and he keeps telling you he's going to do something that is outrageous, you better start believing him. that's the danger when you think that is so crazy, nobody would ever do that. we learned that from people like hitler, we need to learn it from kim jong cookoo, who clearly is a irrational and delusional person. he also has the weaponry and the will to do the crazy things he keeps talking about. somebody has to take them seriously. i do think the trump administration is taking him seriously, the threat he poses to south korea, japan, and frankly to the united states and the rest of the world. >> dana: do you think governor, that is military is more rational than he is? i know they had the wild applause, and i can't tell how much of that is an act or forced or if they are so brainwashed that they actually believe it. >> mike: i think they are brainwashed. keep in mind, and i've been to the border and i've looked into the eyes of those soldiers and they've looks back at you with the sense of just sheer hatred because they don't have the internet, they don't have free press, they have only what they're told. they have been brainwashed and by the way, if they want to eat anything other than grass clippings in north korea they better be obedient to dear leader. they don't have much of a choice, and they don't know any better, so they probably have had a big long drink of the kool-aid i believe everything he is saying. >> dana: what do you of the changes in china's behavior after the meeting that president xi had with president trump. all of a sudden there was more aggressive push, at least behind the scenes, and also with 175,000 troops along the border that china put with north korea. what do you make that negotiating skills of president trump, because it seems to me was able to push china to a place that previous presidents in the past decades hadn't been able to do yet. >> mike: it's clear that he build a relationship with the chinese president and i think the other thing is just before dessert on the president set up by the way, we just put 59 tomahawk's on the ground in syria, the chinese realized they are dealing with a very serious person. i believe it's a matter of respect, they don't have to like each other, they just have to respect each other and believe that each means what they say. it's very significant that the chinese have left north korea in isolation. this is huge. as donald trump might say, yuge. it's a very big thing. it really does give north korea a sense of being utterly isolated from anyone else in the world. that is a positive development, and one that frankly bodes well for being able to do something that will contain north korea and its utterly fanatical leader. >> dana: i know that you keep in mind for people there too because as you said, he is going to starve them. if sanctions don't work, he is willing to start his people. you can't put enough economic sanctions on him, but you can try to choke off his military capabilities, then you've got a conversation. let's move to the second topic, because news busters i had a piece that i guess you will be surprised that the mainstream media doesn't really like president trump and in fact in this report from news busters, the coverage on the network news, it has been 89% negative, contest, contrast that with president obama, quite a glowing review in those honeymoon months. your thoughts? >> mike: first of all, i think that right now the world's oldest profession is getting a great deal more respect among the american people and the so-called professional of journalism. journalism has died in this country. there isn't any. journalism is to be the objective recitation of what had happened leading up to the reader or viewer to determine what they thought about it. today the commentators in the so-called newscasters are giving their opinion to the point that an analysis by media research center found that when they covered donald trump's immigration proposal, it was 93% negative. when they covered his attempt to deal with obamacare, it was 94% negative, and when they covered the tweet in which he suggested that the obama administration has surveilled trump tower, dana, it was 99.5% negative. i just want to know, what was that half% that was positive, because i must have missed that. everything i heard was utterly negative. three things you can't do, you can't spit into the wind, you can't climb a ladder leaning toward you, or kiss a woman leaning away from you. add one more to the list if you're donald trump. if you can't get a fair shake from the media. he hasn't, and he probably isn't going to. >> dana: does actually engage with the media quite a bit, he might call them names or whatever but he'd than actually called them up. he's actually fairly accessible to some of the media, especially "the new york times" and "the washington post" being willing to pick up the phone and told him about the health care bill for example. that's a little bit different, and i think if he does have some respect for them in some way, don't you? >> mike: i do. the fact that he engages them. it's interesting, i saw the news conference in which he basically called amount and went after them. i thought it was delightful, because it showed a president living outside of the tightly controlled bubble with the palace guard telling him what he could and couldn't say. it's that he was just knocking them up one side and down the other. i think most americans were on his side with that. let's face it, the media right now has the reputation about as popular as cockroaches and the influenza virus. >> dana: i don't know. the best way to deal with media violence, results. getting good results when they get back to town. putting some point on the board. governor huckabee, thank you so much. >> mike: thank you. >> dana: coming up, a retail apocalypse sweeping america. our storm clouds ahead for the u.s. economy? we will be right back with that. the industry's woes are feeling concerned that they could drag on the economy as a whole. so glad you're here, and i have been worried about retail and the job loss and there's lots of reasons for it from technology and consumer's changing of references, but you are not as worried as i am. >> i think what we are seeing is a retail economy that is changing. i will call it the amazon effect, because that's exactly what has happened. you are saying about 89,000 jobs lost in the retail industry, just since october, 2016, it's not that these jobs are appearing, they are changing. the economy is changing, technology is ramping up, we are seeing where houses being built all across the country. we are syndrome companies go. we are seeing some retail businesses that are thriving while others like sears or radioshack are actually going out of business. while you are saying losses in one section of the economy, you are seeing gains in the other. rankly, retail jobs are lower paying jobs. i worked at the mall at chick-fil-a when i was young. >> dana: at chick-fil-a? awesome. >> cheryl: absolutely. is a lot of concern now about the overall effect on the economy, when you have a lower paying jobs like this, does not relate jobs that are really going to have meaningful input into the economy because they are lower wage. i really do think we are seeing an increase in better jobs, a push towards technology, and of course we are bringing back under the trump administration, manufacturing jobs and auto jobs for example. >> dana: what also happens to the rental incomes of places -- retail shops or malls and knelt retail is going to change so much, what happens there? >> cheryl: we've been saying this actually happen for the last ten years in particular. the good old-fashioned moment that i knew when i was a kid is disappearing. somewhat falling apart. i gather what you are saying is an atomic growth in urban centers and we are seeing the population moving back into the urban centers, the idea of the s from a real estate perspective has been changing. it's also changing when it comes to commercial real estate and those are those mall facilities. while you are seeing that mall that is 50 miles out of philadelphia, not doing too well, maybe shutting down, you are seeing a new type of retail atmosphere and it involves restaurants and bars and cafes and coffee shops and you are seeing that emerge. that's a connection. >> dana: i didn't anticipate that today. i've been having anxiety about people working in retail. this is good, there might be other jobs for them elsewhere. another question for you is, the u.s. confidence. i was surprised to see that it is down, the lowest it's been in five months. i thought last month it was up? >> cheryl: the gallup number is 12 points lower than it was right after the election in november. if that does not surprise me whatsoever. that certainly is the administration and congress and the health care fight and the concern about tax reform. all wall street cares about right now, all we want to see is tax reform. the more rhetoric we hear out of washington of the president nears that end of his 100 days without any meaningful movement on health care, which is of course the concern that will delay tax reform, that hurts investors, that hurts the american consumer but think about this. when somebody says in the survey is how they're feeling at the moment, they may have the same job that they had back in november, but they don't feel as good about the economy because they are watching like we all are what is transpiring in d.c. can president trump get the republicans on board to further his policies, to get action that will actually help the american family? that is tax reform will certainly help. >> cheryl: stomach >> dana: when this survey was done when the health care bill was failing failingbn. >> cheryl: there's always a lag period as well. there's a lot of them. the government does competent surveys. the gallup happened to be one that was frankly eye-catching because of the drop. when you look at the time frame right after the election right after the election to now. i would say i don't want the viewers to maury, i want lawmakers in washington to worry. you need to pay attention to this when people are saying they are doubting what you are doing or not doing. that really is frankly the republican party getting on board and getting some common ground with the president. >> dana: does it ever go -- the summer? people are happier? people are out and about. >> cheryl: people aren't probably answering the survey questions in the summer because they are at the beach. >> dana: or hiking in the mountains in wyoming. >> cheryl: event. >> dana: thank you. when we return, some personal thoughts about the dramatic changes here on "the factor" ." is the end of an era at the fox, bill o'reilly is leaving this chair and this network after more than 20 years, he has been the undisputed king of cable news, for good reason. he is an incredibly talented broadcaster who raise the bar for interviewers everywhere. he has also held the staff to exacting standards in his quest to put the best possible program on the air and they are great. you his audience responded in record numbers making the factor the number one cable news show for more than 16 years. you have also been loyal and we cannot tell you how much that means to everyone on the factor. in the memo to the fact to today, rupert murdoch described bill this way. 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