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Call in which flynns cooperation with the government is being discussed and the president having positive feelings about michael flynn being discussed, the idea being that somehow theres a suggestion by mr. dowd, the presidents attorney at the time, dont say anything about the president, he wants to pardon you. im sorry, john dowd. thats the implication. >> right, there you see john dowd on the screen here. thats exactly the implication here, jake. the mere fact that theyre saying, hey, listen, ...

Message, a transcript of it. this was a message from john dowd, the then personal attorney for the president, to michael flynns attorney, basically telling him, you know, how the president viewed michael flynn at the time. he wanted information about whether or not michael flynn was cooperating. he suspected that michael flynn was cooperating, and so he -- what happens here is he basically, john dowd, tells flynns lawyer, hey, the president still views michael flynn in a favorable way. the conce...

Democrats to pass your bills. theyve held his feet to the fire on immigration and other things that turn this into a life or death issue for him. so whether he can violate this once or twice whether it looks like he has to violate it repeatedly to avoid catastrophe in the fall. whether his speakership can even make it into next year remains to be seen. >> i think speaker boehner has to decide, one day he has to just wake up and say, what the hell? weve got these problems. ive got to get this don...