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And theyre standing in the middle of this backdrop. its a hard interview. youre not in a controlled studio environment. the way they set it up it was also clear that she couldnt ask everything that she could possibly ask. >> i think they were undoubtedly timed -- i dont know for a fact. i was also struck michael, by the i got to pay our bills question. were talking about speeches $500,000 a pop, as much as. did that strike a discordant note in the interview? >> most definitely. i dont think well...