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How many cars were they making each year? >> no idea. it is a big bump. i dont know what theyve been doing. it was a big bump and the sec said wait a minute, doesnt seem accurate. that 20 million fine he paid before is like pocket change for elon musk. >> trace: thank you so much. breaking news, the house is debating a measure to overturn president trumps national emergency declaration on the southern border. we are expecting a vote on that in a couple of hours. and of course after our reporting...

Process just as important, gordon? dont you have to put one foot in front of the other to get across the street? we have to at least start to go down this path, correct? >> well no, not correct. the reason is weve tried this before. for instance the six-party talks that started in august of 2003. dragged on for more than half a decade. the step-by-step process. it really doesnt work. you think it should work but it doesnt. what we really have to do is just vigorously apply those sanctions so tha...