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>> edgar: it depends what kind of man you are. if you are a coward you would go from the corner. >> anthony: from the corner, well, im a manly man. >> edgar: so you go from the middle. >> andrew: for somebody that does what i do -- write about chefs, for people who are chefs -- i think tony was like as cool as they came. right, everyone wanted to be -- it was that classic line -- everybody wants to be him. he was a cool guy, he could write, he was natural on television. the "chef swagger," thats...

Of man you are. if you are a coward you would go from the corner. >> anthony: from the corner, well, im a manly man. >> edgar: so you go from the middle. >> andrew: for somebody that does what i do -- write about chefs, for people who are chefs -- i think tony was like as cool as they came. right, everyone wanted to be -- it was that classic line -- everybody wants to be him. he was a cool guy, he could write, he was natural on television. the "chef swagger," thats tony -- i mean, that started i...

Now, is there an appropriate way to attack this or does one go at it from an angle? >> if you were a coward you would go from the corner. >> well, im a manley man. >> so you go in the middle. >> all right. >> for somebody who does what i do, write about chefs for people who are chefs, tony was as cool as they came. it was that classic line, everybody wants to be him. he was a cool guy. he could write. he was natural on television, a chef swagger. thats -- i mean, that started in some ways with t...