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Would have ever expected. >> thats fair enough, hogan, thanks for joining us. >> no one would have expected it. we all. nobody believe. thats pretty far right, because i think it is. he was the secretary second to the last campaign that really matter. why did he quit? i think that in order to secure the amount of delegates we needed to, and a few things had to happen. we had to do well in pennsylvania, first and foremost. we knew that. we had to have newt jump out and push delegates and say, you...

Supporting him in his presidential bid. >> why? >> well, its easy to point to romney care as the issue why the tea party doesnt like mitt romney. it goes much deeper than that. the republican party didnt like him in 2008. not much has changed about him between then and 2012 but the electorate has changed a lot. were more conservative. >> so joe, if not romney, who does the group support? santorum? >> reporter: well, there are some people who support santorum. there is support in this state for n...

Had coming. so it has changed this race in new hampshire. >> speaking of south carolina, and santorum, i was talking to our reporters who covered santorum the whole triyears. and he said they have an organization on the ground in south carolina. do you know when santorum will get there in. >> reporter: i dont believe it will be before there is a debate saturday night. i dont think it will be before that debate. if you look at santorums schedule, it is very much like the schedule he had in iowa. ...

To hear what rick santorum has to say about all sorts of issues. and youre also seeing it in terms of what his other rivals are saying in this campaign. newt gingrich was giving an event, holding an event earlier today where he basically went after rick santorum and diminished his role in the congress when gingrich was bringing about the contract with america. gingrich said that santorum was really a junior partner in that republican revolution. and i had a chance to ask rick santorum about that...

that and it is tracked back to that. >> god forbid. these kids knew what they were getting when they signed up for the ad. so part of the program, they are losing weight. were not finished. i have to go. thank you so much. live out of new york. now hour two. here we go. top of the hour. im brooke baldwin. rick santorum is expected to speak live this hour. well take part of that for you. also a big surprise concerning jobs in america today. and prosecutors want death by for a famous e...

Next few house, cant do anything to any other state, would i go to gingrich and some of the other folks and get their endorsement and go into south carolina where i think hell win and go in florida and take romney on directly. florida is a big problem because hes -- he takes an enormous. a money, and he cant raise the money that fast, i dont think. but if hes got some other people behind him, michelle bachmann and gingrich all decide to get together and support santorum, then i think he can beat...

Next few house, cant do anything to any other state, would i go to gingrich and some of the other folks and get their endorsement and go into south carolina where i think hell win and go in florida and take romney on directly. florida is a big problem because hes -- he takes an enormous. a money, and he cant raise the money that fast, i dont think. but if hes got some other people behind him, michelle bachmann and gingrich all decide to get together and support santorum, then i think he can beat...

>> no one would have expected it. we all. nobody believe. thats pretty far right, because i think it is. he was the secretary second to the last campaign that really matter. why did he quit? i think that in order to secure the amount of delegates we needed to, and a few things had to happen. we had to do well in pennsylvania, first and foremost. we knew that. we had to have newt jump out and push delegates and say, you guys have to support santorum. and the third was texas, it had to be winner t...