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Donald trump is the first president who never cracks 50% approval. i mean, that is an astonishing statistic. he has never gotten over 50%, even though the economy is in great shape. and why is that? its because everything that he says or does repulses a significant portion of the electorate. i mean, hes got about 40% of the base is behind him, but the other 60% of the country basically is turned off by what he is saying. there is actually a fascinating pew survey in april and may which asked peo...

And special adviser to bohm, cnn political commentator van jones. dave, lets start with you. how much of the folks tonight do you expect to be on joe biden? >> when youre the front-runner, youve got the target on your back. thats just a reality in politics. and he has felt that the last couple of debates. and that time hell get to feel it with all of the top tier folks on stage with him. how he handles it informs us about the state of his mind and how he turns some of that energy coming his way ...

This president and the way he does his business and the chaos that ensues is really disturbing to these voters. and its not going to change, anderson. thats the thing. what weve seen is as he feels pressed, he becomes more frenetic. and his theory of politics is that there are no undecided voters, that its all about mobilization. if you just turn things up to the maximum into the red and excite your base, then you can win. and i think as he turns the dial into the red, he is going to -- he is go...

Lose. in the fist debate, she was strong, some people thought too strong, she buzz was also warm. she said "this little girl was me." when you have strength and warm, thats a very strong combination. the second debate, she tried to be strong, but biden punched her and tulsi gabbard beat her up, and she didnt respond well. so she looked weaker so she never humanized. she looked colder. she went from strong and warm to colder and weaker. which one shows up tonight is going the determine whether or...

Had one of these nights, and weve had someone on from the biden campaign,i think wehad one with the last time, they had sort of laid out this whole strat zwri what they were going to be talking about. none of that actually came up. >> exactly. well see. even the first debate, it seemed he was prepped a little bit too much and kind of came across on stage. in the second debate, youre right. he went in, i think the whole quote was i think im not going to be so polite this time. and he was in some...

Way he talks. >> mike, is this kind of music to your ears? you can make the counterargument which is letting trump be trump is what allowed him to win. he does stuff no one else does and people responded. >> yeah, i understand what david axelrod is saying. he is sort of acknowledging that the democrats have become obsessed with attacking president trump. and i think in large part because they dont just disagree with him, they hate him. they hate who he is. they hate him as a person. its very per...

Trump voters who particularly women who are now saying, you know, i like what he does, but i cant stand the way he does it. and i dont know if we can take this. and i really think that the operative question that americans need to be has the broadest reach is can we do this for another four years. >> the -- i have heard you say that the group -- if you were in the trump train, if you were in the trump war room, the group you would be looking at and most concerned about is white noncollege educat...

Going to catch some incoming. its going to be very interesting to see how they go back and forth with each other and how the other folks need some rise today. if biden stays steady and strong and elizabeth as good as you said, sthal thail both have a good night. >> do they sort of draft off of each other? >> at some point tom, bernie and elizabeth, who are fighting for the same voters have got to engage to start distinguishing themselves from each other. and you may see some of that tonight. >> ...