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Program no matter how many people support it, then i think it is going to be gobbled up by the partisanship we have seen around the budget issue which is to me disconcerting. >> we only have -- pre-k sort of -- universal pre-k in the districts in new jersey because it was court ordered. it was not legislative-legislated. the discussion of expanding it is dead on arrival. >> lets imagine a better future in which it was not dead on arrival. i want to talk about what the details -- little built of ...