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Obligation. were going to spend $200 billion of money we dont have now to try to pull out greece -- our money, our money, that we dont have -- well have to go out and borrow, which is just going to complicate things. what we need to do is have real leadership. you were talking about that earlier, but on the things that count. and right now -- the way you get $1 trillion out of the defense department over ten years is $1 billion at a time. and we like backboack backbone, and vision in the congres...

Medicare, medicaid, and call for a revamp of the tax code. >> thats the real story. >> i think the shutdown is a side show its larger issue of how do we solve the long-term problems. >> what were talking about in the shutdown debate is half of a% of 1% of the budget. >> its big. the question is has paul ryan just walked in, you know, to the jaws of -- to the jaws of the democrats or not. and thats the reality. sitting around the table a couple of months ago we were all very frustrated that presi...

As it was described to me by someone on capitol hill that there is agreement, but in the end sort of the knee bone is connected to the thigh bone, if youll excuse the medical look at this, that if youre going to do one thing you have to figure out how to pay for it, that its very difficult to say oh, we agree on those four things, lets pass that. >> and that challenge from lamar alexander to the president, were willing to talk, but you have to renounce that reconciliation option where you just g...

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