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Were seeing there. and the -- that just doesnt come from anywhere, right? that terrible historical inaccurate comparison weve heard members of congress here repeat t but its actually, i think, a lot of it is based in theres been so much demonization of public health officials in this country and elsewhere. >> right. >> that a lot of these people believe that public health officials are there to harm and hurt them not to help them. >> right. its the bigger picture here is online radicalization of...