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But there was never a serious conversation about investigating and charging him because he was president. has that changed behind closed doors at the justice department? >> to my knowledge it hasnt changed yet, but you have to remember there is a constant collection of evidence. and, you know, in theory could that view change? i think we have to see. i think one of the the big things we have to see is what does jeffrey rosen say specifically about his te conversations. we have the notes, and obv...