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Mueller and several deputies with binders and binders of transcripts from testimony from his closest aides, people like hope hicks, don mcgahn, and some of his frenemies, if you will, from the justice department who have also testified to these four flash points you have cited in your report. does the presidents legal team view it as good or bad for their legal strategy that talks have broken down around an interview? >> well, thats a good question. and it probably depends on who you ask because...