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Immigration without congress without the need for congress to rescind a single visa program enshrined in the law. here with us is campaign director at the center for american progress action fund. welcome to both of you. >> thanks, martha. >> martha: its interesting there have been a number of things thats happened on the immigration front without laws or without walls in terms of speaking the policy loudly and clearly it has had quite a bit of impact. >> its had a huge impact. these things are ...