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Business, they clearly should not be part of building and forming the government. that, to me -- theres no problem in taking counsel from your family. the problem is they havent set up and set forth what are the guidelines here to make sure that the conflict of interest stay away. >> do you agree with it? >> look, i wish they would be clearer about it and perhaps clearer about it faster but i do think that this is sort of a bit of a new creature and were going to see how it plays out here if iva...

But i do think this is a bit of a new creature and were going to see how it plays out here. but, you know, if ivanka is the government trump kid and the other two are the business trump kid, i dont have that much problem with that and it is going to a case by case basis. but i think it is best practice to make it clear and how. im not sure were going to get that. >> does it make sense to you kirsten, that there are sitting around with the tech executives today? >> no. the example i keep using is...