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>> shell tear down a building downtown, and i may own a building across the street, and shell call and say you need to renovate your building. so then ill renovate a building or renovate two buildings. and then i call her and say, you need to renovate one across the road from me. so it becomes very competitive. >> that sounds like somebody i know, but his name is steve. we compete a little bit. and its fun. >> a little bit of that competition is great. its actually helped things grow even furthe...