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among other things, mike pences novel -- to put it kindly -- novel notion about why he should not have to testify before a grand jury. >> novel is one way of putting it, lawrence. i cant wait to see. it >> thanks, alex. >> thank you. >> well the breaking news of the night is that special prosecutor jeff jack smith has invoked the crime fraud exception in a motion to force one of donald trumps lawyers to testify before a grand jury without being able to refuse to answer questions bec...

Route of following the money. the times reports in addition to the documents and the january 6th investigations, mr. smith appears to be pursuing an offshoot of the january 6th case, examining save america, a pro trump political action committee, through which mr. trump raised millions of dollars with his false claims of election fraud. that investigation includes looking into how and why the committees vendors were paid. joining the discussion now is andrew weissmann, former fbi general counsel...

Like this to be brought to trial? what do you think also, whatever comes in the, and you think hes going to be convicted, what does that signal to other trump allies, who are also refusing to comply with the committees subpoenas? >> thats why they brought. it as you say, there is a concrete cost here, at least for, now they have not been able to get the testimony. same is true with meadows. and navarro. they had to refer for content, in order to actually sober up the other witnesses, who are thi...

Surrendering. one guy doesnt even have a gun, gonzalez, whos an awful guy. i mean, hes the cream of the crud. but he still deserves to only be arrested with only that force thats necessary, and not anymore. so i think what it needs is more investigation, probably by the civil rights division, to look at it closer, you know, dive a little deeper, get some testimony out, where is the watch? theres got to be pictures of the informants body at the scene. is the watch on? did it make it to the corone...

Exaggerating it. >> couldnt they have accomplished the same thing by just introducing the syllabus itself? why did they bring this guy in and allowed this guy to bring in defense-oriented testimony out? >> i know, mark. i -- i cant -- -- >> you have no answer. >> i have an answer for that. >> i actually thought that it was helpful to the prosecution because weve got to remember the jury saw the interview that he gave to sean hannity and when sean hannity asked him, what about stand your ground l...

Person reasonably believed he was imminent endangered of death. and the nature of the injuries conflicts with george zimmermans account. thats what is significant about the injuries, not whether they were death defying. that is a red herring. the issue is whether george jrch was truthful when he said he bashed my head in the pavement and smacked me and rained blows -- that kind of thing. whether that is true or he was exaggerating it. >> couldnt they have accomplished the same thing by introduci...

Risottos testimony out. >> not only did he say the conversation took place at many different places on many different dates but on a prior occasion he was allowed by the prosecutors to testify under oath falsely and they didnt correct the false testimony. >> here is is the problem. if there were different dates do you think the prosecutor should be telling his witness what what to say? shouldnt he be subject to cross-examination but you. >> if they have records. >> he is nodding. >> well, if the...

Hired a hitman when there is no evidence to show that. nor do you put before a jury evidence that a bullet was placed in the driveway when there -- you cant substantiate it. it taints the jury, it prejudices the jury. my belief is whats going to happen here is the judge will probably though the entire testimony out, which makes the prosecutors look very bad and puts a nice hole in their case. its pretty strong what they did. patti ann: to that point making the prosecution look bad, the jury sees...