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And as you pointed out, carol he is a police officer and may not -- former police officer. and may not be used to that. but i think its also he may have felt threatened emotionally in that this younger person was disrespecting him in this way. but i think theres going to be a mental health issue brought up here. i think theyre going to even go with an insanity plea. trust me on this one. >> okay. so mark, ill ask you about that spart of the equation. do you think that will happen? >> well, there...