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Helpful in the end thannd in. whether or not its true it speaks to the fact that john kasich held out for a very long time on the fact that he didnt think that donald trump was suitable material to become the president of the united not su serves very well in the end but it does fit the narrative of what many americans, particularly fiscal conservatives, those who couldnt find it in their hearts to vote for donald trump wanted to believe that john kasich was a principled, fiscal servative, cente...

You remember this spot. donald trump suhr has denied saying this to john kasich but kasich goes on to write his interpretation of the call. trump would leave the running of the country to someone else and keep his focus on the smoke in mirrors aspect of the job of being president. helping americans feel he was somehow making their lives better just by being at the helm. wow. john and eli are with me. joining us here at the studio is alley very well she. what do you think of that? >> we knew he n...