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Of the government that is really shut down? so, are we overstating the drama here? >> i dont think were actually overstating it. i think its actually putting into sharper focus what goes on in the administration. you look at the kinds of choices they have made. health care.gov, thats open. amber alerts, thats been shut down. i cant imagine gambling with a childs future but they are, and michelles get moving -- that is done, thats open and working. >> neil: thank you very much. meanwhile, is kath...

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