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Will? you have a covert action? >> general hayden, good to talk to you. >> hey, richard, hi, good to see you again. >> when does dianne feinstein know about this? did she know in detail years ago and did she express the same kind of outrage and opposition then that she is expressing now? >> i believe the first time was december of 2006. i believe she was on the committee then. but she had not been a part of a gang of four who had been thoroughly briefed on the program since its inception. i pay ...

All the intelligence agencies expanded, had their budgets grow dramatically. now we are looking back at what happened in this period right after 9-11. its really quite disgusting. i think this report when you read the details and the specific way these detainees were humiliated, often sexually humiliated. thats a big undertone in this. you see the anger and the dark inside that came out and then theres questions about whether it was worth this or not. whether they got any actual intelligence out...

Should have talked to? how do we know the report is true? how do we know it is credible? if it is true and credible, former cia dreblgor michael hayden is lying. >> this report is stunning, as riveting as this, wed like to be briefed for the prosecution, senator feinstein in 2009 decided that this story of use of torture by our intelligence agency was so shocking that she wanted to produce a report that was so daming that it would draw a bright red lean in our history and no one would use these ...

Program i was telling them about was because this agency had performed so badly with what i think david ignacious described earlier was an ad hock battlefield program that they had begun in afghanistan and, mica, the committees had the ig reports on the two deaths. they had the ig reports of the activities earlier in the program. everyone knew that the program i was briefing was created as a result of how badly the agency had begun to do the work early on in the war. >> david ignacious, you know...

Pakistan and theyre driving around an al qaeda site and they look at the profile or the signature of a terrorist, ten they can be telling you without knowing exactly who they are or what theyve done. >> nevada? >> from nevada. it is a program cloakled in secrecy, a program where we dont know a lot of details about it. a program where there is claims its totally perfect and totally effective. we dont know how effective it is, but its a program. if in four years or three years, we have a few way o...

Able do that. >> that clause is actually no longer valid. >> reading between the lines, a large part has to do with tension between dianne feinst n feinstein, which heads me to ask you, david the report and for feinstein yesterday and the florida senate reading portions of the report on the floor. she has been on the intelligence committee for quite some time, when do you think she knew about the program when she began the report? >> yes. >> or years ago? >> well, the question of how early she w...

Whether or not someone should be prosecuted. they are deflecting to the justice department on that. the sect e second is whether these tactics were effective. >> right. >> and theyre saying, theyre also avoiding that question and in doing that, theyre trying to cut through the debate of the infighting thats happening and just stick to one line. the question is whether or not thats a sustainable approach. >> richard. >> i think its also a porl question we have to ask. this was a morally fraug pro...

I could -- sexual abecause but also injuries and death. in this report, there appears to be far more injuries than you indicated in your testimony and there were at least two deaths. so i go es the question is, sir who is telling the truth? >> well, i was telling the truth. i was describing the program that was in existence at the time i viewed the testimony. the program that had i think at that time 97 people in its custody. the two deaths, although they happened in cia custody were not in the ...

Briefings if 2002 and 2009. rockefeller says the briefings he received offered little or no insight into the agencys programs. richard eng em. >> well, i think thats one of the parts of this, that is not really debatable. this was a program. it was a despicable program. its a program that when you read about, you are sickened to hear about this. and the sexual humiliation of these people and when you debate whether it worked or whether it didnt work, but to have a lot of politicians now playing ...

Said to keep details of the program hidden from former secretary of state colin powell because he may quote blow his stack if he were to be briefed on whats going on in 2003, the chief of interrogations threatened to quit, writing in an e-mail, this is a train wreck waiting to happen and i intend to get off the train before it happens. the five-year investigation disputes claims the enhanced interrogation stopped attacks and led to information that located osama bin laden in pakistan. >> the com...