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it is beyond overwhelming. steven avery is guilty. >> the story gripped the nation in the series, of making a murder. >> so many citizens -- >> its being heard by people around the world. >> steven avery and his nephew, convicted of murder and a hunting killing of the young photographer. where they really in dissent? >> i didnt do it. somebody is doing a job on me. >> did you have any vendetta against avery? >> absolutely not. >> for the first time on television, lead investigator defe...

craig melvin: the story gripped the nation in the series "making a murderer." so many americans have learned about it. laura nirider: its being heard by people around the world. craig melvin: steven avery and his nephew, convicted of murder and the haunting killing of a young photographer. but were they really innocent? andrea canning: did you have any kind of vendetta against steven avery? absolutely not. craig melvin: for the first time on television, a lead investigator defends his ...

people think that stephen avery is innocent. they made him look like he was a nice person. the evidence is wrong, the evidence is beyond overwhelming. he is guilty. >> the story grip the nation in the series making a murderer. so many americans have learned about it. it has been world -- >> stephen avery and his nephew convicted of murder in the haunted killing of a young phenom photographer. >> i did not do it. >> did you have any kind of vendetta against stephen avery? >> absolutely....

By feeding it straight to brendan dassey. >> even they know thats bad police practice. >> then, they discovered something at the end of that interview, which was a revelation to them. something jurors in his trial never heard. dassey speaking to his mother. >> i never did nothing or something. >> did you? >> not really. >> what do you mean, not really? >> they got to my head. >> what? >> as the first moment that brendan dassey gets outside the influence of those interrogators, he says, no, this ...

Very, very, ifeel very bad about it. and stephen, i tell you, i think this was karma because when they came to me and they told me, the interrogator, the fbi, told me that ramzi al—shibh testified that i helped him go to afghanistan and i dont know the guy let alone helping him, and i was so upset with him, i said how could he, how could they lie about it? and other detainees, they told me, "mohamedou, you are crazy." this guy was tortured so badly, we couldnt sleep hearing him crying all nigh...

You made a confession, but you also betrayed other individuals. you implicated others and ijust wonder how guilty you feel about what you did at that point when you talked of others and their involvement. very, very, ifeel very bad about it. and stephen, i tell you, i think this was karma because when they came to me and they told me, the interrogator, the fbi, told me that ramzi al—shibh testified that i helped him go to afghanistan and i dont know the guy let alone helping him, and i was lik...

Way. beating it straight to brendan dassey. >> even they know thats bad police practice. >> then, they discovered something at the end of that interview, which was a revelation to them. something jurors in his trial never heard. dassey speaking to his mother. >> i never did nothing or something. >> did you? >> not really. >> what do you mean, not really? >> they got to my head. >> what? >> as the first moment that brendan dassey gets outside the influence of those interrogators, he says, no, thi...

>> at the first moment that brendan gets outside the influence of those interrogators, he says, nope, this is not true, they got to my head. >> but tom fassbender, the interrogator himself, sees it all very differently. coming up -- >> this was seen by many as a false confession. >> i feel it was a real confession. he knew right from wrong. brendan was involved in this. >> when "dateline" continues. and non-24 can throw my days and nights out of sync, keeping me from the things i love to do. t...

Dassey. >> even they know that that is bad police practice. >> reporter: then they discovered something at the end of that interview which was a revelation to them. something jurors in his trial never heard. dassey speaking to his mother. at the first moment that brendan gets outside the influence of those interrogators, he says, no, this is not true. they got to my head. >> reporter: but tom fassbender, the interrogator himself seize it all very differently. >> coming up. >> reporter: this was ...

Row tund guy sitting at an interrogation table. he has a black turtleneck on, black mask, black beret, and theres a big bag on the table, its money he stole. he looks at the interrogator, im sorry, how was i supposed to know he was a job creator. the job creators today are the only people that get benefits, it used to be there used to be a basic bargain in america. if you participated in the growth of the well being of the operation you worked with, whatever it was you got to share in the benefi...