and they re saying mr. atchison was not the shooter, and tell me, who is. all i know, i presented the evidence that was presented to me. 12 citizens listen to all the evidence and decided that mr. atchison was guilty of first degree murder. although, the judge with the same 12 jurors listen to the evidence, they would ve likely reach different conclusion. that s your opinion. i respect it. i certainly disagree with it. the system doesn t want to acknowledge that they made a mistake. but, you made a mistake you! made a horrible mistake. the fact that it happened twice in the same family is there are no words. in 2020, the oklahoma innocence project worked on a staggering 145 potential wrongful conviction cases in tulsa. there is a problem here. it continues to be a problem. of course, it s a national problem. especially for african americans. a 2017 study, the national
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broken such that we are losing people even taking responsibility accountability for their teenagers who are so young? emily: i think the answer to that is also longer than the hour but it s a reflection of the book to my broken structural systems are in through. it has everything to do from dependency programs to a lack of accountability and reward for positive behavior, the removal from those kids from the juvenile court. you would be shocked at what is allowed and acceptable and what is the law here when dealing with maintaining juveniles here in addition to that broken culture that we have inherited i think in this town while i think people who have the means to be able to leave, the people who remain are rotting here and the system doesn t account for that. there is no compassion in the system. it is all cruel and the victims are not only those kids but all of those people who continue to get beaten or murdered. mark: there has also been a breakdown in schools. if you go back t
executive branch. that was different places in the world. but always inside a facility that everybody said yep, you can have it there. it s authorized to be there. i don t know how these folks decided to take it. sometimes you have somebody and somebody says oh, that statement is classified. these are documents that were marked as classified. i don t know how those documents get to places that they shouldn t be. i don t know why the system doesn t track them. we have to do better. neil: you know, i m sure as the secretary of state you had the highest of all classified clearances. i m just wondering, when you would write a book or even this latest book, did you ever personally try to get documents, borrow them for the purpose of research, clear them with the proper authorities for use in your book or for reference in your book? the book that i just finished was fully cleared, making sure it didn t contain classified
because the fact this person was an innocent jogging on her own and got abducted. i say this all the time having been a prosecutor many years, these are random crimes that make you afraid to have your daughter, son, husband, go out, you never know if something like this will happen. only question is i m wondering whether or not this person has been stalking her, he has previous kidnapping, he kidnapped a male attorney for money 20 years ago and served a 20-year sentence. i wonder if he had been stalking her. as a pros cutesor, i want to go through her social history and his social history and go through the internet and phone to see if this was a random thing or plotted in order to get money, extort money from her, that is something i m keen on