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But i also have to, we need to be enough of a realist to realize that a saudi arabia has been a bulwark against iran, it is a leader in a very messy part of the world. and if there are ways that we can continue to push the saudi government, mbs in particular, towards greater reform and a willingness to get off the sidelines and stand with democracies against putin or in ukraine, i i think that would be a good thing. shannon: was it unfair then to criticize president trump for not being tougher o...