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Somber music [reporter 1] 20 year old swimming Star Brock Turner [reporter 2] the 19 year old former high school allamerican swimmer [reporter 3] the star swimmer at Stanford University [reporter 4] contender for the olympics [reporter 5] raping an unconscious woman [reporter 6] intoxicated and unconscious woman [reporter 7] passed out behind a dumpster [reporter 8] drunk behind a Stanford Dumpster somber music [chanel miller] your honor, if it is all right, i would like to address the defendant...

Was to quench the publics thirst for punishment. (dramatic music) and for vengeance. do we want a legal system that does that? hell no. if we look historically, it was people of color and low income people who got slammed in the courts. as a feminist, thats not what i think the feminist movement should be about. - it wasnt that brock turner didnt deserve the kind of careful analysis that the judge gave him. its that everyone does. - [crowd] (chanting) what do we do? stand up, fight back. while b...

Took anywhere, up next, msnb films presents recall, the refrain. -- aftermath of the controversial 2016 sentencing of stanfor swimmer brock turner subsequent removal of aaro frisky and the role of the criminal legal system in seeking justice for sexual assault victims, immediately following the film - speak with the filmmakers abou the social justice issue raised in the documentary. watch the recall, refrain, nex on msnbc it is also streaming o peacock. thank you for making time fo us, make sure...

Live every moment. glucerna. >> as soon as the recall was announced, an imperial study found that sentences i california immediately increased by 30% long sentences disproportionately affected wh are not like brock turner. >> the people who suffer the most are low income and people of color >> welcome back to our continuing special coverag here of this new msnbc documentary, the recal re-framed which -- back class after that lenien sentence of the convicte rapist brock turner for just six months...

The position that there should be a recall, because they just wanted more punishment and if they couldnt get mor punishment for mr. turner, the wanted to take it out on the judge. and they did they were more punitive, thi judge lost his job and then there were those of u on the other side who said tha is not a system that we want because in the long term, when you have a recall, tha punishes adjusts for doing something that is lawful although controversial, you en up getting a system that i more...

(metal door shuts) - our norm is prison. thats whats been imposed on us as communities of color. i think about my communitys values, values of rehabilitation and that incarceration in the prisons and the jails are not the only solutions to it. (light music) as a participatory defense organizer at de-bug, i and a lot of other people support families who are facing the criminal or juvenile or immigration systems. (light music) (people chattering in background) and we walk families through that sys...

Than that, as we know. crime is much more complex and what these prosecutors these judges do, is only one piece of the very, as we said, systemic system. so i dont think recalls are a good idea. >> and we never recall judge who punish too lenient lee we only, sorry, we never recal judges who punished to charsley, only to lenient lee. and this is part of the crisis of mass incarceration. so no, i dont think there should be recalls. i dont think there used well, and i think they contribute to more...

Are the legal system i think i have coopers as i right, criminal justice only - only exacerbates these inequalities so we actually cant just be single focused i think that we have seen ho that doesnt work, in so man ways and so as we advocate for meto and for accountability, an justice in sexual assault, w also have to look at the criminal justice system, which historically and still, come down most harshly on people of color and low income people it is an unfair system. if we dont deal with tha...

Their lives? you know, and so, it is not th fact the brought turner got it it is that everyone should get that consideration, which is - >> but judge persky was know to be lenient. the problem, as some researchers found, is that his leniency tended to come out in cases involving sexual assault not in other areas of the law. how do you balance that kind o record against the sort of broader social amelia, when we are really, finally starting t sake sexual assault and victim seriously? >> yeah. per...

- i absolutely think that white privilege informed the brock turner case, but in ways that are complicated. the sentencing guidelines recognize that he was a college student, that people saw with potential, with no record. and this stands in contrast to how this system would see a 19 year old black kid from a poor neighborhood whos a defendant. increasing sentencing, broadening the definitions of crimes prosecuting more people, we all have this imagination that it will get at the powerful, privi...