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Also, a possible setback. tiffany hartley joins us tonight in "crime and punishment." and we begin with "keeping them honest." he was a world war ii actor and pretended to be a member of the adolph hitlers. he was a tea party favor and republic candidate. hes the one in the middle in the uniform. the uniform with the 5th division called "the vikings." he took part under his own name with his son and created anger man alter ego. from 2003 until three years ago. he says he started doing it to bo...

People to this group of nazi re-enactors, i understand youre trying to appeal in a broadway, but dont you want to be accurate and tell those people what theyre dressing up as? were you aware of the atrocities that this particular group you were dressing up as, were you aware of the atrocities they have been accused of? >> what happened in germany during the second world war is absolutely one of the, the low points in human history. in fact, as you mentioned on the website, it talks about what ha...

Well talk to him in a moment but first we want to focus on the idea that this was about educating people. as you see, mr. iyods group seem to have left out a lot of history including the holocaust. heres a kre krumt video from his group. a recruitment video. thats what they look like when they march around which interestingly, their website description with the fifth ss division, what the vikings were all about. they emphasize that the vikings were emphasizing fighting the soviets and included v...

The new europe they were supposedly fighting for. no word on the website is jew, jews, homosexuals or gypsies even mentioned. as for the notion that these volunteers were idealists. their countries were invaded and occupied by nazis. there were resistance fighters that died opposing this. but this whole idea of him dressing up, they were volunteering for their invaders. they were what a lot of people would call "collaborators." over the weekend, the gop minority leader repudiated this and said h...

That this particular group you were dressing up as, were you aware of the atrocities they have been accused of? >> what happened in germany during the second world war is absolutely one of the, the low points in human history. in fact, as you mentioned on the website, it talks about what happened and that we dont support that. we dont support the political or the a ideological motives of that time. were talking strictly about history. its important for us to remember the history. >> were you awa...

Actmentes as a american soldier. he said this was, in large part, to help educate people about the war. well talk to him in a moment but first we want to focus on the idea that this was about educating people. as you see, mr. iyods group seem to have left out a lot of history including the holocaust. heres a kre krumt video from his group. a recruitment video. thats what they look like when they march around which interestingly, their website description with the fifth ss division, what the viki...

Were you aware of the atrocities that this particular group you were dressing up as, were you aware of the atrocities they have been accused of? >> what happened in germany during the second world war is absolutely one of the, the low points in human history. in fact, as you mentioned on the website, it talks about what happened and that we dont support that. we dont support the political or the a ideological motives of that time. were talking strictly about history. its important for us to reme...

My question is why this group youre a part of seems to be a sanitized version of this ss group? >> certainly, what you see on the website is -- thats not the story that one is communicating to the public about the war. thats a recruitment site for people that are interested in it. >> why would you do that on a website if you want -- if you want to educate people isnt the website the place to educate people? >> no. the whole purpose of historical re-enacting is to educate people one-on-one. and t...

Air shows and events like that with americans and brits and poles and germans. an opportunity for the public to come in and talk one-on-one. >> if youre trying to recruit people into this group, was the point of the website and the video, and you make the effort to give a whole history of this group, this ss group, you would think you would give an accurate history and its clearly not. >> thats not it at all. what were talking about is just, you know, the highlights of it. remember, this website...

And atrocities including the death marches of the jews in sprang of 1945. german authorities say former members of the unit rounded up dozens of jewish slave laborers, forced them to kneel and shot them dead. nowhere on the vikings website is the word jew, jews, gypsies or anything ever mentioned. as for the notion that these volunteers were idealists. their countries were invaded and occupied by nazis. there were resistance fighters that died opposing this. but this whole idea of him dressing u...