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The tide list. the highest level security list. theres disagreement frankly among law enforcement and intelligence agencies about how well the watch list would have worked to stop the attackers from traveling here. one intelligence official tells me that human sources and other intelligence methods would have filled the gaps, but law enforcement officials are very concerned that thats not the case. now, this is not a new concern. in the past year homeland security department has added new requir...

Investigation by removing tsarnaevs back pack from his dorm room entered the country on an expired student visa. how did that happen? and is it fair to say that this case is exposing some vulnerabilities in this country? >> yes, i think its true. i think weve got to tierten it up, clearly. weve god to have nobody coming in on expired visas. thats a mistake. lets tighten it up quickly and you know another thing to build on what you said is tamerlan was on a terrorist list, a large tide list which...

For years. >> at the end of the day, its very difficult because with many of these individuals, we dont know when theyre going to cross the line from rhetoric to violent action. >> security experts argue watch lists can still be valuable to investigators, tracking terror networks after an attack. but the fact the boston bombings were the work of someone already on a list is now in itself being looked at very hard. for "outfront," tom foreman, washington. >> "outfront" tonight, a former cia analy...

You have another terrorist screening database with 423,000 names. tsarnaev was said to be on that list. then theres a select d list with 14,000 names. a no fly list with 10,000 names and the kill list, we dont know exactly how many names are on that. does it make sense to have all of these lists? >> so, look, i think most of these lists are to be used as references. theyre not generating leads, open investigations. it depends on how theyre used. they can be useful just as a resource for some org...

Dont know, desperation, they went to the cia and the cia puts them on a watch list and then the tide list is supposed to track them going out of the country and coming back in. that didnt happen. and there is a conflict because homeland security secretary napolitano said there were pings going out. and the cia says there has not. >> you ask people who i think ought to be able to deliver straight, comprehensive answers about this, and they cant. you say to people, what happens when the system pin...

For people. i just wanted to throw up a graphic. six major lists. you have tide list with more than 700,000 names. you have another terrorist screening database with 423,000 names. tsarnaev was said to be on that list. then theres a select d list with 14,000 names. a no fly list with 10,000 names and the kill list, we dont know exactly how many names are on that. does it make sense to have all of these lists? >> so, look, i think most of these lists are to be used as references. theyre not gener...

The resources to monitor someone are pretty extensive. all that means is you reached a bar sufficient to say, when you come to the airport, well talk to you and look through your bags and in a few cases, you wont get on the plane. >> even above the list that tamerlan was on, not necessary lit no-fly or the one where you get the secondary screening at the airport, what does that with the 420,000 people, the tide list, what does that mean? >> you have to put things into two bu two buckes to the ma...

Tough road to hoe here. >> it is interesting, juliette, there was a guy in dagestan around the same time that he was there who was from canada, who was a boxer turned jihadist. >> right. thats exactly right. all of these as we were saying before, all of these pieces will come out over time and some will lead to good places, some will lead to dead ends. i think over the weekend, you heard a lot of concerns about stove piping, did the fbi stove pipe its information, keep it to itself, could it hav...

Come out over time and some will lead to good places, some will lead to dead ends. i think over the weekend, you heard a lot of concerns about stove piping, did the fbi stove pipe its information, keep it to itself, could it have done er, shared with other agencies. i think what youre starting to see evidence of is exceptional stonewalling on the part of russia, that if they had information both about his contacts there, who he was meeting with, or concerns about conversations that his mother wa...

Contacts there, who he was meeting with, or concerns about conversations that his mother was having, we now know that none of that made it to the fbi and thats relevant not to excuse the fbi, because we dont know where we are yet. its just his name was in a big list known as the tide list, stands for the environment. its half a million people strong. he never made it to a more selective or intrusive list because we never got that information from russia. so like bob and others who have worked wi...