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People. >> how do you remember him on the stand? >> i think he was calm. i think he answered the questions as best he could. very simply, i think very completely. we felt that we had made a showing that the state had met the burden of proof beyond a reasonable doubt. >> mike pannell had waited four long years to get justice for his sister, but now he wasnt sure what the jury would do. there. >> were times that i felt the evidence was very circumstantial. >> in this day and age, we know that juri...

>> frankly, i think circumstantial is sometimes the best, because they dont lie. the circumstances dont lie. people lie. >> and thats the case lowry made to the jury. the circumstances show tim perminter was the only one with the motive and the opportunity to kill karen. and everything he did afterwards was fabricated to cover up his horrendous crime. >> the issues in this case were the murder of karen which the only person who could have done it, and that person lied about all these things. the...

Relationship and that ultimately led to her death. >> prosecutor lowry says perminter thought he could outsmart the cop, by acting the bereaved boyfriend, playing to it the hilt. but the prosecutor says he got thrown off his tear-stained script when he called his best friend soon after making that 911 call. >> he says catherine, im tim. im at karens apartment. she is laying on the floor. there is blood everywhere and she has been stabbed. >> stabbed? >> stabbed. >> not dead, she has been stabbed...

He charged perminter with first-degree murder and decided to seek the death penalty. then just weeks before the trial was scheduled to start, tims friend george solomon, his sleep-over alibi witness recanted his story. >> he tells me this whole new story that perminter had admitted that he killed karen that night. >> blurted out a confession? >> when he got up there. >> so thats a holy cow moment for you. >> it is. >> this one had taken four long years, and despite building a strong circumstanti...

>> after the trial, roc herpich was free to ride his harley, but told us it still ate him up that a man he never met tried to frame him for murder. if you could sit down and talk to him the way were talking here, what would you say to him? >> i am restrained correct? i couldnt get to him, right? >> should we tie him to the chair in this scenario? >> i would not be a good communicator in that conversation mode with him sitting there. i couldnt do it. >> mike pannell couldnt do it either. hed rath...

His own statement. the detective said the suspect knew the charade was over. >> he put his face in his hand, he literally covered his face for two or three minutes. tim ultimately looked up at us and the car salesman guy that we knew as tim perminter completely left the room. >> what did you see in his eyes, in his face? >> the first thing i thought was satan just walked in the room. >> coming up. >> i knew i was innocent. >> was he? >> juries like to see forensics. >> right. >> dna the blood sa...