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With that said i dont think it would be radically different because there are certain facts that have to be the same and as we know they are sharing information and they are sharing evidence. we have to assume that there while not a necessarily in -- ballpark and saying timeframe because otherwise it wouldnt make sense theyre giving information if they were on totally different timeframes given the overlap it seems that is reasonable to assume that its around the same timeframe. >> we will see. ...