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Feels like hes isolated. as a result, hes kind of taking the steps he needs to take to try to ensure he can get the best outcome for his legal issues. >> the dilemma here is what trump -- the problem trump has is obstruction. because if he now pardons cohen, everybody knows 100 tapes out there and know about the tape initially with the payment to mcdougal. >> is that putting the cart ahead of the horse or whatever the phrase is? lanny davis says they are not looking for a pardon. >> thats what t...

They want trade. they dont want handouts. they want trade. i think this is a very slippery slope because once you start handing people money, youre going to have other people with their hand out. ive been told theres like 42,000 requests for exemptions pending in the commerce department now. if they dont get those, are they also going to say we need help? i also think it creates a problem with the wto if we start sub sid zi subsidizing folks. >> ive got to ask you with the fre supreme court nomi...