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Capability, going after the perpetrators of these kind of crimes in attacks, one of the things that we hear from your sector is that the potential blow back, the potential consequences of very aggressive offensive actions is something that may be hard for us to conceptualize. maybe its something hard for us to get our heads around. how do you think about that? if we did do, if the u.s. government to do the kind of things are proposing, treating these groups effectively as we treated internationa...

Of blowback, that when we talk about defense capabilities, hardening yourselves as a target, and then you talk about going after the perpetrators of these kinds of crimes and attacks, one of the things we hear from your sector is that the potential blowback, the potential effects of a certain action may be hard for us to conceptualize, hard for us to get our head around. if the u.s. government did do the kind of things youre prop proposing, treating these groups effective how weve treated terror...

Operate in russia, so its long past time for us to take matters into our own hands and try to get these groups shut down online and make their lives very difficult with cyber operations. >> i feel like a lot of us who are sort of outside the cyber and cyber security world, run up pretty quickly against the idea of blowback. that when we talk about defensive capabilities, hardening yourselves as a target, andy then you talk about offensive, going after the perpetrators of these attacks. one of th...

Barrel. and the numbers get very confusing. so i reached out to tulane professor hank ashtba. you have a gallon of milk at the home. it smalls all over the place. its a thin amount. were talking volume. if you take 64 days of the volume of the oil at 60,000 barrels a day, it would be enough to fill up 20 washington monuments. he calculates it would be 245 olympics sized swimming pools, 50,000 dump trucks and because its louisiana, 2.6 billion hurricane drinks which are very popular here in the f...

To find some quid pro quo there, some corrupt intent and thats not always easy for a jury to conceptualize. because its hard to understand whether just doing favors for each other is a criminal act. because independently, the things the senator did on their own were legal. the things that dr. melgin did on his own was legal. but when done together, the government says, uh-oh, thats criminal. >> did melgin play ball? i cant recall if he turned states evidence? >> no, theyre both tried together. >...