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love a chance to frame it for you. >> im kevin lip ttac at the white house. and this is cnn victim donald trump im found guilty and could face prison time. a stunning precedent for a man on the ballot. >> again, this is bigger than me. this is bigger than my presidency. >> hes taking an aggressive stance but how is the verdict affecting his campaign and his future republican national committee co-chair lara trump joins me exclusively. next. >> turning point president biden in response ...

>> well, first of all, i think hes right. i think people would be i mean, republicans would go crazy. theyre already going crazy, but this would be a level of intensity that i im not sure we can exactly describe today, but i honestly think they ought to do it. i mean, look, the core of this case was that it was a campaign finance violation. so agree. just that it might have changed the outcome of a presidential election. so if you actually believe that dont want to, they just lock him up. why do...

Different parts of the globe, subject matter experts who can help the national security adviser process that information. so iths a big step and big question for whoever is the national security adviser. will that person have control over their own staff and will they get that statement from the president? we expect thats part of the conversations happening with the interviews that are happening this weekend. alex? >> can you please get right to us as soon as you finish on your reporting there? ...

See a big democratic political panic over this that could mean big change in the law. martha: we will see what happens. rich, thank you very much. good to see you. >> thanks, martha. bill: holiday shopping season kicked off with a bit of a frenzy. according to retailers black friday was a bit of a bust. despite more shoppers than ever going to the stores. according to the national retail federation, 141 americans headed out for this. is that right? 141 million? thats half the country. martha: un...