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Trying to get this piece right. and im clearly going to -- >> what did mike pence, vice president-elect, say to you? did he call you or you call him? >> the vice president-elect reached out to me today and i had called him earlier and through phone tag this tends to happen today, but let me step back. i do this -- this is hard. the first eight days is the most tumultuous in any of these transitions. this is probably the most public affair of the tradition ive seen in my lifetime and im not sure ...