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Coming specifically from on scene, correct, not being updateded from any hospital facilities that lost a patient while being treated? do we know that? >> my information is coming from law enforcement officials who are gathering information from various components, so i believe this to be -- to take into account the full picture. >> full picture. okay, pete, thanks so much. pete williams bringing us up to speed with this new toll count, 8 dead and 16 wounded. our craig melvin has made his way to ...