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the victims on scene tell cnn about the horrifying moments that followed. >> there were several people who were obviously deceased. there was a gentleman who i believe, ive heard since has succumbed. he had a gunshot to his abdomen. we started an ive. i went across the street. there was another woman with a gunshot to her chest. she was deceased. the people who were gone were blown up by that gunfire. >> blown up? >> blown up. blown up. the horrific scene of some of the bodies is unspe...

One believed to be used in the attack. another found in the vehicle after they found the suspect. thank you, tom. joining us now, casey jordan, a criminologist, a behavioral analyst and attorney. and also with us a former fbi special agent. thank you both for being here. jeff, first, what questions do you have now after listening to the press conference based on everything weve learned in the last half hour? >> what your correspondent said, its important to know who had access to the information...

Everything we know so far what does this tell you about any of this getting close to donald trump, the former president himself, or i think of michael cohen, and how he ended up going to jail, but nothing really ended up touching donald trump. >> yeah, i think i would add to your sentence there, yet. i think the inclusion of allen weisselberg in this indictment signals that prosecutors are interested in flipping him in hopes of finding liability for others up to and including donald trump. allen...

President trumps tax returns, it seems like this is this possibility of insurance fraud or bank fraud. michael cohen said that it was donald trumps practice to change the value of assets depending on what most suited his immediate need to lower his numbers when it came to reporting taxes and to inflate his assets when it came to seeking loans. so michael cohen said everything from his attempted purchase of the buffalo bills to purchases of art involved this process. and so we saw with paul manaf...

We shouldnt break the law and should turn in illegal criminals? now, you know in a democratic primary, it is a dead loser to be pro-i.c.e. and to be pro-locking up criminals >> laura: i get it now. >> it sounds weird. but im not sure its weird for them. >> laura: so for them it makes perfect sense. i want to play one more thing for you. this is from your friend joe, former republican, panhandle native. what he said about whats happening to the republican party and the former stronghold, for inst...

Should turn in illegal criminals? now, you know in a democratic primary, it is a dead loser to be pro-i.c.e. and to be pro-locking up criminals. >> laura: i get it, now. >> it sounds weird. but im not sure its weird for them. >> laura: so for them it makes perfect sense. i want to play one more thing for you. this is from your friend joe, former republican, panhandle native. what he said about whats happening to the republican party and the former stronghold, for instance, of orange county in ca...

Said cohens work did not meet the requirement to registertor register as a lobbyist. is at&t cutting it close from an ethical perspective? >> as tom said, michael cohen is not somebody who is known for his antitrust expertise or telecom expertise. so hes being brought on because he has access to the president. at the very least, that is -- that is the kind of swampy, unethical behavior that people dont like in washington. but theres stuff that we dont know yet that is going to tell us whether th...

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>> aisle ive always felt that was a deal thats not gort country. i think your pricings going to go up. i dont think its a good deal for the country. but im not going to get involved, its litigation. >> so put that into the context of high this payment matters, tom. >> so just a few days after the inauguration of a president who had expressed his opposition to the merger of at&t/time warner, at&t hires michael cohen, the presidents personal lawyer, and it was clear if you looked at the at&t agend...

That there is implicit executive privilege thats not waveived, t for dearborne theres no problem. there is no expectation of executive privilege. so, i guess again to the chaos of the white house -- >> let me stop there, though. this is a really important point. one, you and i worked in the white house. my understanding is rick dearbornes job was -- wasnt he the staff secretary? he would have seen literally every piece of paper that went in front of the president. >> right. >> if there is ever t...