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And everything we could count showed an obama edge. but the republicans sort of did something tough to themselves. they really shocked and awed their own base, because they werent ready for this. >> well, i think its very interesting, because i go back to that interview, i think it was ron suskind did with a member of the bush team who told him, hey, you guys live in the reality-based community but we dont have to, and was bragging about the way that they were able to create their own reality an...

Right. i guess, you know, there are lots of questions about this wof obviously. and one of them is, in the middle, when supposedly, or a disgruntled or concerned fbi agent went to some house republican members, eric cantor, and got him involved. so there are -- it seems like there may have been, on the part of some people, some political considerations, which would really be awful. i think its going to be a while before we get to the bottom of why was this important, how was it pursued? were the...

Its -- who the hell is grover norquist anyway?" we can say that because were quoting a former president. who is grover norquist and is he as powerful as he thinks about it? >> he is someone powerful. but at the end of the day, the american people smoke. we had this national conversation over the last 18 months about raising taxes. were not raising taxes. that was a legitimate policy conversation in the public square. clearly, president obama won. sort of. and the reason why sort of. >> clearly, ...

General petraeus had coming into this. where he knew as this whole thing was going to unfold, two things he was very concerned about, one was his family and the impact on them, and also wh what then would be the impact on the agency and the impact on the country. i think he did, and general petraeus i think is a hero for so many young troopers. i think he did the right and honorable thing. but the key question come still comes down to, if an investigation was done and there were no criminal acti...

By november 11th, thats yesterday, sunday, the senate intelligence chair, senator diane finestein said her committee would investigate this entire issue, because she believes her committee should have been informed earlier in the process. new york republican peter king also had this to say. >> we received no advanced notice. it was like a lightning bolt. this is something that could have had an effect on national security. i think we should have been told. >> once the fbi realized it was investi...

Joining the panel now as well is pulitzer prize winning senior military correspondent for the "huffington post," david wood. david, thank you for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> absolutely. i want to start today with wes moore, however, whos here on set with us. you served as an army captain in iraq, under petraeus at the time. >> right. >> what do you make of this everything weve learned thus far? that was a lengthy timeline, but the key points there are, something started with anonymou...

Ago. the fbi investigation might have been primarily a law enforcement matter, until very recently, and thus not subject to reporting requirements. though it seems like any investigation into security breaches of the cia directors computer system or communications by definition implicates counterintelligence. david, i want to go back to you. youre speaking about how it goes up the chain of command within the intelligence bureaus. but a separate question, under the law, if were serious about the ...