other investigation. does that suggest is that witness tampering? what is that? it could be, don. i mean, look, there s quite an obvious turn around in kevin mccarthy s rhetoric as you just showed in your opening from the weaker cell after january 6th until after that sort of miraculous visit to mar-a-lago when suddenly kevin mccarthy decided to see the world very differently. if kevin mccarthy was advised or urged or asked to shade things a certain way or to give his testimony sort of partially, but not in other parts, that could be witness tampering. that could be obstruction of justice. certainly relevant to january 6th committees works and it could be relevant ultimately to doj s work if doj was interested in this, which we re not at all sure they are. so listen, charlie, i want to ask you about we know about the screaming match between mccarthy that he had with trump on discrimination where he demanded trump stop the violence, and then trump told mccarthy, well, kevin, i g
i think kevin mccarthy is doing everything to make sure that hard right flank doesn t undermine him again. also donald trump is out there who doesn t want him to cooperate and can also cause problems for him to become the next speaker. there can t be daylight between kevin mccarthy and jim jordan and kevin mccarthy and donald trump on this issue. simple as that. in this letter to mccarthy the committee brings up conversations mccarthy may have had with trump about impeachment, resigning or even removal onto the 25th amendment. that s as serious as it gets really. it suggests that mccarthy believed trump was culpable for what happened but does it also speak to his state of mind, his mental fitness. exactly. the number one issue that kevin mccarthy can speak to is to
because that s kind of what kevin mccarthy is saying as well. you know what might be relevant? whether he talked to the then president on january 6th. that might be relevant. did you speak with president trump on january 6th? yeah, i mean, i spoke with the president last week. i speak with the president all the time. i spoke with him on january 6th. i mean, i talk with president trump all the time. that s i don t think that s unusual. i would expect members of congress to talk with the president of the united states when they re trying to get done the things they told the voters in their district to do. i m actually kind of amazed people keep asking me this. i talk with the president all the time, i talked with him last week. on january 6th, did you speak with him before, during, or after the capitol was attacked. i d have to go. i spoke with him that day after, i think after. i don t know if i spoke with him in the morning or not. i just don t know. i d have to go back and
graham, chuck grassley, richard burr, lisa murkowski. what is so different now? t-r-u-m-p, f-e-a-r, the big l-i-e? what is so different now? voting rights protections haven t changed. we haven t grown all of a sudden a different group of ethnicit ethnicities. those are members of congress who voted in favor of voting rights then and they are in the senate now. that is roy blunt, john bozeman, shelby moore, capito, jerry moran, roger vick wicker and marsha blackmon. every one of those republicans took a stand for voting rights more than 15 years ago.
i have it right here and i quote, it says in advance of january 6th you reportedly explained to mark meadows and the former president that objections to the certification of the electoral votes on january 6th was doomed to fail. how did they respond? why were they nevertheless so confident that the election results would be overturned, end of quote. they also wanted to ask mccarthy about what happened in the days after the riot at the capitol quoting a local news report saying this quote again, kevin mccarthy said he implored president trump, donald trump during an intense hour-long phone conversation monday morning to accept his electoral defeat and move forward with a peaceful transition of power. house minority leader pleaded with him telling him the election was over and he needed to move on. stop this, exclamation point, end quote, mccarthy recalled telling hip. the committee s letter going on to say this, it appears you may have also discussed with president trump the potential h