because that's kind of what kevin mccarthy is saying as well. you know what might be relevant? whether he talked to the then president on january 6th. that might be relevant. >> did you speak with president trump on january 6th? >> yeah, i mean, i spoke with the president last week. i speak with the president all the time. i spoke with him on january 6th. i mean, i talk with president trump all the time. that's -- i don't think that's unusual. i would expect members of congress to talk with the president of the united states when they're trying to get done the things they told the voters in their district to do. i'm actually kind of amazed people keep asking me this. i talk with the president all the time, i talked with him last week. >> on january 6th, did you speak with him before, during, or after the capitol was attacked. >> i'd have to go. i spoke with him that day after, i think after. i don't know if i spoke with him in the morning or not. i just don't know. i'd have to go back and -- i mean, i don't -- i don't know that -- when -- when those