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The other. >> do you buy it? >> im not sure the press secretary has a tremendous amount of credibility. no, i dont buy it at all. i think that this is, this is a tra travesty of justice. what were seeing now is as its unfolding, we dont want to see that trump is hes gone ahead and done this. its really disgraceful. >> jim comey was involved in the libby case. the deputy attorney general at the time. he appointed the special counsel who investigated the case. is it coincidence that this pardon fo...

. okay. welcome back. a college degree gained on sensitivity training? lets go back to our legal guys to break this down for us. civil rights attorney avery friedman is in cleveland and new york defense attorney richard herman live in honolulu at this hour. there it is on the map. instead of the dot pointing on honolulu it should say richard herman. >> its pretty easterly here. >> extra thank you for that. we appreciate it. well start with avery. i think a lot of people when they heard the new...