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Their naval capability to enhance their deterrence against the russians. last thing i would say is we need to argue our points in the public sphere as well as highlight that vladimir putin is causing great problems for his own economy by mounting aggression i his neighbor. heather: what about us troops? >> in this case certainly it is worthy of discussion of whether we want to put any boots on the ground in ukraine. we have training trainers assisted ukraine because of antitank systems but maybe...

The training is occurring, that the drugs are getting there on time, that mothers show up at clinics, its a very basic system but not so basic to implement. >> you make sure those people are people who have one big commitment of not transmitting from mother to child. you make sure they bring their gun ho determination in getting this done? >> yeah, absolutely. so much of this is around talent, right? having really high charged people working within the health ministries, developing training prog...

>> you make sure those people are people who have one big commitment of not transmitting from mother to child. you make sure they bring their gun ho determination in getting this done? >> yeah, absolutely. so much of this is around talent, right? having really high charged people working within the health ministries, developing training programs, training trainers, taking countries that may have 100 clinics th have tests and have drugs in place, and getting that to 5,000 clinics. how do you do t...