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in a lead role like you've never seen before let me be clear with you. to say that to me is that your of it should give the ends justify the means. to tim's witnesses starts december 13th on d. w. . this is the dumpy news coming up the political parties love to hate dissident authors to. call tunes on the hong kong protests slam the government and support the protesters and ask him if that's completely fair. plus he's accused of human rights abuses and shouldn't cause my not to use viewer suspicion but go tell that out of the truck has just been sworn in as the island's 7th president can he be a president for all sri lankans. welcome to news asia it's good to have you with us we begin today with the dissident chinese artist's impression of the situation in hong kong for testers and their running battles with the police and the chinese government support of the chief executive these are just some of the themes explored in the walk of australia based on test. which atom in a bit but 1st a quick look at a documentary on him called china's out for dissident this would be a kind of test 1st time that my wife actually entering a chinese territory we shall see we actually from china is going. to tell joins me now in the. studio welcome but it's you know we just saw you in that clip you were wearing a mask but yet here you are everybody can clearly identify you why the difference well i've been trying to hide my identity thing the very beginning of my creation but in the end of last year i find out my identity has been compromised and actually my family in china got threatened by the chinese government's. police in shanghai and after that i've made this decision that i think heidi is no longer an option for me and actually the best way for me is confront them face to face and this was before exhibiting the possible stop in hong kong yes this is supposed to be my 1st solo international expression and freedom before the opening my family in china contacted by the authority there and they deliver distress to say i don't cancel the show then me and my family well being. now a lot of the images that you have made concern the situation in hong kong as we can see behind me and a lot of the work concerns of the chief executive kerry lamb it almost appears from the images that it is all for is it well. for any problem in any society one need to be responsible is the leader and parallel is the leader of hong kong she should be the one who is responsible for all the problems in particular because her act is not good enough to solve the problem which bring to hong kong into this very critical situation now but what are the options that kerry lamb has a more should should be doing well it's very clear hong kong is have 5 the months and i don't think aaron has really take those 5 months years later well she never really a rent a proper talk the thing her and the protests there are some almost like a stage talk being organized but people do not see her saying see if we're doing any of those movements you talk about people in the people in question here are primarily the protestors and your workers looked at protesters as well. if you can just show the previous picture once more in richard looking at the protests in hong kong a lot of these protests have turned violent over the past many months a picture such as this in which you take what bruce he had said about being bored don't picture such as these encourage violence well i have a very different opinion on that firstly i would challenge the very notion saying the protesters are getting violent we have to trace the roots of who started this is actually the police brutality when those from protesters seeing their friends got beat up facing life then just threatening what are they going to do it is just instinct to helping and save their friends or is it only instinct i mean you also had a situation in which a brawl. protester was doused in a flammable liquid and set on fire there was nothing provoking vat well actually there's cons argument with a lot of people are saying why does that person didn't really get. herts severe with this horrible burden which is totally n.t. our common sense and actually there are evidence showing this could be a staged performance maybe all. these performances already being set on fire the problem is now in hong kong actually the freedom of speech has been have released threatened and without environment we can never tell this is true and that is forced yes we saw something from a video but is that video stages or not there's no way we can tell right where we left leave it there for the time being but thank you so much but it's awful coming into the studio and your views with us pleasure. go to buy a rajapaksa has been sworn in as next president of the people rising figure elected in a country itself deeply divided the election was held in the shadow of the easter sunday bombings which killed more than 200 people and national security paved the one deciding issue on the majority clear about who could provide it. it's official she longed for a sec to have a project after helm again. to poland crowds gathered on the streets of the capital colombo to get a glimpse of the new leader. of the. 8 chanting back on rationalizations. the brother of former president mahinda rajapaksa. claimed a landslide victory a day after the presidential vote was held. his supporters are breathless with praise and that your nation. is taking over the country while it's in a lot of trouble under any other leader even a child wouldn't feel safe on the streets i'm so happy long live. i mean that this victory belongs to go tavo the people have shown their support for him now feel safe here that i made our venue up that you know more than a myth that words can explain how happy i am and you are going to look at that i pray for him and i want to thank him for saving this country that has gotten that out it only got more than a 3rd of the ranks brick he's here the camera is as much to get close to my him to the fox as it is for the new president. supporters are july's the brothers who oversaw the end of sri lanka decades long civil war. but not all the sri lanka is celebrating. there was little joy on the streets and areas that back packs us often and such a theme about so. they are lazy about their future. in the past there have been allegations of enforced disappearances and oppression of the sand under the leadership of my hand and what i am a large part of the minorities are concerned about their rights under the new nationalist project but the government by bearer of rape would rest on camera but fear of reprisals and changes in the country's leadership are far from over. experts point out that as the incumbent prime minister donna to become a single is from a different party than dodge apart so he could resign. to allow for the new president to make his own pick but the last time an attempt was made to move the sri lankan prime minister it triggered a constitutional crisis. i mean it could have a destabilizing effect if mr vick are saying that and mr rogers box of the new president cannot agree on what the next step is going to be yeah then of course it'll create a question oh look we have to have a lot of no confidence and all of that kind of thing but otherwise it's a relatively small transfer of power. security peace and prosperity that is what she lankans are seeking it's a tall order but good job of euphoric supporters are confident he will deliver. and this is what the new president had to say upon his victory. by thank everyone who supported me so i understand that i am the president of the citizens who voted for me. and those who use their vote against me. therefore i'm well aware that i am bound to say every 3 lankan irrespective of race or religion i will make sure to fulfil that task. here because one of the michelle dress far has been covering the election for us and joins me on the on line now from colombo a good job at our departure has promised to court so of every sri lankan irrespective of race or religion is this an assurance people from minority communities are convinced of. well it is definitely important british that god. is making such an effort to meet this point that he was so of all sri lankans that all sri lankans should come together that all of them would be included in the plan he has for sri lanka ahead and this is especially important because he is seen as a strong majority teddy a nationalist lido who strongly favors the simple level of the majority but however words on not going to be enough for the minorities in this country to feel secure for example under the rule of the dodge trucks as in the past i'm talking about good dobby large parts of the defense minister and his brother my him that are just blocks out as the president of the country there are allegations of inforce disappearances of thumb is at the end of sri lanka civil war additionally we have minorities here muslims feeling insecure in the often marked off that used to sunday bombings where there have been facing a backlash but again with rights activists minority rights activists have pointed out that whenever buddhistic stream most attacked by the muslims on evangelical christians they act with impunity no actions taken against them so if the precedent actually treat actions and give assurances towards this that would actually be a good start to getting minority confidence in the mitchell lovers also 1st one of its most economic downturns in 15 years how much of an issue was the economy in this election. both british national security and peace while at the top concerns in this election everybody we spoke to did say that they want all ethnicities aldridge and to come together to live in peace pushing along got to have the peace that it has wanted for such a long time but if the economy was not off the minds of people are those several people spoke about the fact that the cost of living is so high and they want the new precedent to reduce that salaries a lot that they're not. enough jobs available so this is also on the minds of people and talk about you but son has outlined how it has outlined some i can on the policies in his campaign promises but it is also important to note that he is seen as having a strong china on target and it is also important to remember that a lot a lot of my own to feel like i was caught in debt was in could when his brother my own daughter box up wasn't far so this is another dodge looks like government to watch closely to ensure that his policies are beneficial for sri lankans right thanks very much about michelle just income. and this program or our website give up the dot com for slash release or no with pictures from the sri lankan presidential elections won comfortably by our trust we'll see you next time about. what secrets lie behind swap. discover new adventures in 360 degrees. and explore an aging world 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violence against children. this seems d.w. news live from berlin the terrorist attack on london bridge leaves 2 people dead but the terrorist is met with heroism and decisive action passes by a man with a knife wearing a fake suicide vest before police arrive and shoot the suspect did i am deeply saddened. that our city of london has again been targeted by terrorism and political turmoil in malta as the crisis sparked by a murdered journalist reaches the very top of the government prime minister joyce of must god is reportedly planning to resign imminently 3 all his close colleagues have already quips over the full hours. plus of friday's 5th floor bull again thousands of young people tank popping rallies around the world the call to action comes ahead of next week's un climate summit. in london police say they have shot and killed a man wearing a fake explosive device on london bridge after he stabbed 2 people to death video posted to social media shows a man in seville. and clothes are wrestling with the person believed to be the attacker surrounded by police other civilians back away one of them appears to be holding a large knife grabbed from the attacker footage also shows police checking a white truck which is parked across london bridge emergency services including ambulances were quickly on the scene. well earlier we spoke to eyewitness olivia bizzaro in london she told us what she saw as police responded to the attack. well i was on my way towards the french and i was coming out on my bike i had explosions at the time i can only assume that it was gunshots but then the police came and stopped all the cars and i thought it was the construction i wasn't really thinking and then continue going straight on to the pavement and then all of a sudden floods of incredibly panic people are just hoarding towards me and literally sprinting for their lives and i was just so confused and didn't know what was happening and to start running with them and sort of asking what was going on and one of the people screaming it was gunshots it was gunshots and so that more people started running and it was just a massive tunnel well it's now being reported that the attacker had previously been convicted of a terrorism related offense and was released from prison a year ago our british prime minister boris johnson has responded to vast let's hear what he had to say. while he's too early to say exactly what happened we will make sure that the government give gives the police and the security so says all the support that they need there will be for reassurance purposes i mean home state police presence on the streets and we're not only as you know putting 20000 more police officers on the streets of this country but i have long argued that it is it a mistake to allow serious and violent criminals to come out of prison and it is very important that we get out of that habit and that we enforce the appropriate sentences for dangerous criminals especially for terrorists that i think the public want to see. and there's been another stabbing attack this time in the netherlands police in the high say 3 people were wounded in the incident on the city's main shopping street they say it's unclear if the attack was terrorism related. now to some of the other stories making news around the world and iraq's prime minister abdul mahdi has announced his intention to resign it follows the deaths of over $400.00 people during week's events a government protests iraqis have been demonstrating against government corruption and unemployment. in south korea pups. has been sentenced to 6 years in prison for raping a woman with another pop star. secretly filmed the rape and shared the video online k. pop star whom was sentenced to 5 years in prison. rescue crews in albania are winding down their operation to find survivors of choose days deadly earthquake the operation is now focused on a collapsed beachfront hotel in the port town of duras 49 people have been confirmed dead across the region rocked by the 6.4 magnitude earthquake. media sources are reporting that prime minister joseph will resign court imminently his government had become in brolga in the political and legal crisis spotted by the murder of journalist daphne. she was investigating government corruption when she was killed in a car bomb attack 2 years ago. at 3 in the morning prime minister joseph gave a press conference he was upset by the investigation into death. as murder and the alleged involvement of his close colleagues for us this was not just a murder this was a major case that shook our democracy many. people greatly doubt that actually did everything possible to solve the murder of journalist. she was killed by a car bomb on october 16th 2017 last week the investigation into who contracted the murder led to the maltese energy entrepreneur york and finish allegedly he had transferred money via dubai to companies in panama these companies apparently belonged to most cuts tourism minister conrad miti and his chief of staff keith embry both resigned earlier this week co want to go ahead researched suspected corruption at the highest government level this week many demanded most cuts resignation they say he has blood on his hands because he trying to protect officials ali's release or stay through both feasible one sentence we reversed again cambria found no evidence and released him and they want us to believe that according to maltese media most cut intends to announce his resignation soon. well young climate activists around the world took to the streets in the 4th global fridays for a future strike demanding that governments step up their efforts to cut carbon emissions and this sending a message to the u.n. climate change conference which begins in madrid next week here in berlin thousands of young activists protested in the city center. in berlin it might have been the consumer frenzy of black friday for some but on the streets here and around the world people were on strike for friday's future a party atmosphere pervaded alongside the placards some took a dip in the city's river spray to draw attention to rising sea levels others simply felt compelled to demonstrate that it is and why are we here well there is a massive climate crisis and known as doing anything it's crazy to to us the small 30 in the us washington to have the younger generation on the streets although perhaps not in such numbers. but the message was the same. we're asking leaders to take action on the climate crisis civically today we're holding a funeral to i'm demonstrate to the public and to our leaders everything that we're going to lose in the climate crisis and everything that we've already lost. on the other side of the world in australia the call to arms of our house is on fire led to protests a metaphor for some but for others here in sydney it's a painful reality. i. think. i think. really. residents here are living on the front line of this crisis and the effects apparent if you saw the crowd shape it was some people couldn't come out because of this it was. really really telling that people cannot actually. i mean it's so bad in india the roots of this movement were clearly evident in the turnout with an impassioned call to galvanize the use. into something of a revolution. if we feel it is really really important to look again but not just right is a new generation because it's all about the system change and it's about finally getting your voices heard it is about to be moving does not match you know environmentalism. forward do not want to see me go to. south africa to demonstrations with some laying their bodies on the ground to make a statement about the impact that black friday's rampant consumerism is having on a global ecosystem. were the football and climb to 2nd in the bundesliga table after a 21 win at harm to new on berlin shall go open the scoring midway through the 1st half thanks to a thunderbolt by benito rahman this was the 2nd goal of the season. equalized for a new on with a penalty before half time the match was heading for a draw until shockers germany international. popped up with the winner with 4 minutes remaining giving the hosts a deserved victory. on saturday brasier dog travelled to the german capital to face here to berlin while dortmund courage lucianne father remains under pressure the bigger headlines this week focused on the club's rising star jade and century his relationship with dortmund has turned rocky which could see him leave the club earlier than expected. jaivin san shows been criticised for a lack of discipline before their recent champions league match against barcelona sensual arrived late for a team meeting yet he didn't dortmund's only goal in that defeat prior to that misstep head coach lucian fiver supped off sand show indorsements top clash against biron after showing poor form early in the match something which reportedly left the winter feeling humiliated and scapegoated dortmund sporting director downplayed the perceived drop. this to my stopcock that the topic is looking to the future jaden is a normal part of the team the longest on them on job despite the convincing appearance and show seems to be a problem case the club rejected a january sale of the youngster ahead of their match versus here to berlin. up i don't have the impression we're preparing in inverted commas a month for a transfer of this winter and i know that's according to the conversations we've had with him and his agent. if i'm not going to work for that contradicts recent reports suggesting dortmund are open to selling the winger they valued at 140000000 euros this winter as it stands lucian fivers job security is on the line and being an able to get the most out of his brightest star doesn't help the victory come saturday could steady the ship for both sanchez and fiver. in the himalayan region the world of kung fu there is traditionally a male one and these women behind me and nuns from a 1000 year old buddhist order spread across nepal and india and they using their training to send out a message of equality. everybody was back to the himalayan mountains the pak upon. think using it. ancient just to come back centuries only prejudice. one of the aims of gender equality because there are not many nuns who have been gone for there are not many girls i guess in the himalayas who have been doing and redoing like an example for them but up. these numbers are part of a progressive school of tibetan buddhism that encourages its followers to fight the patriarchy. the i aim is to lead by example in a region where girls are often seen as a burden. in all the religions they never said that girl is less than a boy but i think it's a. rule i would say it's a thing in the community that have left behind for many many many years and we being a little different. in this did. that last and coming out. the women see the martial art goes hand in hand with the practice of buddhism. and is in bold in them to spread their empowerment they've given self-defense workshops to almost 400 girls across the region. until and unless girls and boys that need to get in and male and female thing is not gone there wouldn't be a peace and harmony because one kind of person is always looking down at. the numbers it's a graceful for equality thing who will take time and patience. up next is your business update with my colleague stephen beasley. news from both remember you can follow us on twitter at news or get the latest news and information on our web site which is w dot com i'm. back to today's. 97. historical turning point in politics business families. iran the people of the islamic obama. opens up making its initial flirtation photos of strength in states of emergency

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rival princes of the gold. in 45 minutes on t.w. . but i don't need to see a great article for the over mentioned on the 4th time for the most recent article about. the bottom of the valley that dragons this world has called the. debris of books on. them. he's a striker and she is to. teach might as well be. and he is arguably the best striker in the world right now. with the color movement of people if they try to fly in fly learn to population not one of these world famous guys has become his league's top scorer 4 times in a row but leavened off he has said he's chasing a new record to score more than 40 goals in one season is it possible. it would be easy to feed their anger and don't think just 2 strikers talents and some creative inspiration for your next trip to the hair dresser's now on kick all. the young sako into his 2nd season it better blame him after 4 years of playing for cologne to switch to green and white in the summer of 2018 was an exciting one for the japanese forward most often killed by played against braman for killing a doctor on his own. i was impressed by the wonderful atmosphere at the visit and you get a real feel for the club's tradition and i'm very happy to be playing here a lot of pretty think it was shut off at that awful close to suckle got off to a flying start this season with 3 goals in the 1st 3 games including the spectacular home winner against al sports'. sidelined for 5 games with the by injury the 29 year old frontman marked his match day 10 return with the sister gets fribourg fit again and completely in his element at raymond and in the bundesliga your fulfil me is definitely one of the best leagues in the world. right up there with the premier league in la league for the standard of football and a level of competition to sort of. i enjoy every day and every game here. and it's great just to be part of such a stimulating environment and i think i think today. is contributing to a brain with his own silky skills. and go back a long way to gather for my elder brother play football and i started kicking the ball around for all 5 philosophy. all my friends were mad about football he got news about what i played with the mahdi. even more into baseball i might have ended up as a baseball player instead of cannot do we can all ask him. some close senior career in japan got off to a title winning start in 2009 with him and players the young prospects 5 year stint there was time well spent. most of all the dental shima are a club with a big traditional japanese feel. it was a great experience for me to play with the sunni who are winning trophies on a regular basis you can do so i see a lot but you know not from my colleagues the coaches. and the fans right on the get there. he's long since a team superstar status in japan. having played at the last 2 world cups the 2020 summer olympics in tokyo are next on the international horizon but for now there's the more pressing matter of braman a game winless run. on which we are finding it pretty tough going at the moment for sure she might at the end of it all but we have good players and a lot of quality in that same courtyard she went and although we are confident we can still achieve our targets and this is without belief i will keep on fighting to the finish but i think i cannot do when you come like. last season brakeman's target was to return to the european stage they narrowly missed out finishing short of just one point in 8th place on the final match day this season braman said the same target but following their unsuccessful streak of light you still have to keep fighting just to steer clear of the drop so. surely japan's 2018 player of the year will do everything in his power to help make it happen. kids who don't carolyn's best marksman sebastian anderson on the swedish goal scorer talks about his club and his time so far in the bundesliga next. decision to make if he can pick a box to play so. i . just finished enabling city mr lynch and god but. all is well some big game of course a good team has opponents. you know it's going to be a tough game but everything is possible on their shoulder before the whole stadium . and i think we showed it there once again. finishes. thanks so much and something. i. really don't think too much or yes call to play and then he goes come on that i. just enjoy to pay for the sake of sorts and i enjoy the play here in this car companies have this principle that the once you know my seat is simple see i must say i was the kind of a good team spirit and hard working team with no big stars that. many out of here to the top not accusing any. good. kids to get a thank you. thank. our state was the best feeling. northwestern many things in a 1st time for the tribe and presently you have so many feelings only good feelings . now but. believe in your to speak english and you understand each other of course and how kids they can go to a good school they're learning english and german everything is good i think it goes to sweden to thank my. thanks to thank but i'd like to thank them i feel it was of course missing it was the 1st goal for the club and wonderfully your 1st point 1st goal for me so it was many things stuff that goes wrong in your head so i caught me instantly and fairly sound in the bundesliga containing its 3 ways out of 3. whole goal is to stay in a league that is. everything over that he's just forms. thanks. he's been rocking the bundesliga for nearly 10 years now the last 4 years he was the league's top scorer it's hopeless leventhal see the best striker in the world. shall. i i don't think i'm just going to michigan because frank that is just. whatever don't speak is without doubt the bundesliga superstar but what about the rest of the. isn't it a little but i've got a little more in the head to get a bit of a problem for me and that was to get going but it. had to be it can be a mess. is that the dusky pretty one of the very best what. does he get at least he's breaking one record off to the next step just one works to go but live on the screen amazing journeys the show does of us on your set it goes by what these 2 feet dangling from and as it goes can i get. snowed on in full on wonderful on t.v. all my focus is on a child from out of you but that's my connection it's my own germany legends gets made up once marriage fails. but they cut the moment up even if they played globish flight into percolation. does this make. them short. for now messy well this season he's already scored more than both of those 2 together but is he currently the best striker in the world. let's start by looking back. when we 1st met 2012 or 1130 he was a small name strikeout who often started games on the bench. most of his attack on longish calls which i wasn't you know. so up someplace on gotta say stuff put us in new and they shoot your mouth off ingestion of the tops of the cheese or chocolate sauce as far as targets and fish tell us now from pecans he won't believe twice we thought and made his international breakthrough in the champions league i think the 1st moment he was when i score goals against our mother thank you find out. that you steve. i. i that was the game will change me like a player and change. so a lot of things also in my life. and that was amazing. to the next level a level that the other 2 had. they stayed at the very top for over a decade. next year's european championships the 3rd you know road placing he's got over 100 caps for poland and he's both a. top goalscorer. he's been banging goals in for years but he's still missing some. other things about the losses and we posed a lot of i didn't score the goal in the house and 3rd to few now. because of my injury because i was playing since a few months with injury with the pain but if you see. this is on before 5 says on before every. time you find. find out i scored. there's a difference you know the difference might be the fact that living is a typical but not in unlike the supreme leap 1st time to say. although is that the case if anyone knows how dangerous he can really be it's he's a poet. he's a fantastic striker he's really calm when he finishes the actions he's a very complete player it's not easy to defend him is good on the ball good in the air as i said just great finish with left right. this is one of the toughest opponent in the whole word what is it about how does a player get some good. you need these feelings. you have to be or do you have to fight you have to. try something you know all the time if you're thinking that. you are one things. you have 2 things all the time but that means total dedication and obsession with improvement it's the same for now though discipline keeps him among the very best focus is essential on the pitch and off. the ball it's also. training in the gym also we feel that. all the time and if you see the player and you say ok. he doesn't want to work hard you know every day in training he's he's always you know doing something actually to improve his game it helps when your wife is an athlete as well and 11 is a multiple measure least in the world and european karate championships as well as a nutrition specialist she calls the shots when it comes to robots. and you know this is not finished with someone that's just not. and we could. use the. commission to figure out what that means doesn't trust the government that's. going to get out soon. enough. but there's no evidence of that. the smallness of his aside there's a view that someone has done more to deny. his mother was a professional volleyball player his fall but a junior junior champion it's fair to say he comes from. mars or you then that's all there was an hour. that's a bit. of a bonus that's enough to put out so. long it was trouble now with. more years he. devoted himself to football laid out that age of 20 and then became the top scorer in each of poland's 3rd 2nd and 1st division. i was in the lead. when i was there i think i was thinking ok i think so now i can. be focused while how to focus only for the football. i can play. in 27 he joined his 1st. 4 years later went. on a free transfer. the coming. weeks. 6 days it's just. the dislike. you. probably just like the dust. bowl so my kids 5. when i go 5 girls and i mean that was the moment who stay with me i things. in my life and also in the story for the ball and. also play station 5 wilson i mean as i do this . game and very important game for world records in one very costly trick false just for one false just 5 goals off the coming off the bridge. he has become the most successful forward play out in buddhism you get history 5 liter bottles in a row for top goalscorer awards and 3 german cops despite all that he's best season so far seems to be the covered we're very lucky to have him up from them he's in in form that i think no one has seen before so it's good for the team and especially for him very piece of him a bag of trophies out of bucket load of goals he might not quite be on the level with this pair but they might as well be from another planet to live the it's enough to know that there are kids back on our own planet who dream of playing like a one day. kids out of a couple of. them and then just confess control and concession i don't consider anything fresh it will be a conditional if you push music so let's think about that one most not most people find they thought enough and images from. whether a box to box midfielder to number 10 a winner or a striker just affair is final for like 6 attack more about the multi purpose. midfielder next. one into the bundesliga spotlight. christopher turned your water starts to the top smart frenchman and leipzig crystal thetan cuckoo he's a bag of tricks out on the pitch off it his outlook is equally expansive. no remorse it's maybe a bit much to say i'd like to become a german who. want to absorb the culture and the lifestyle and all that in the past something old dive into. his chair for a speech the 22 year old attacker has wasted no time fully submerging himself in the bundesliga since his summer move from paris and further strengthening the french connection at a club already home to diouf. even you must say and already. on the phone from london and they told me a lot about the club over the past year or 2. they were here already they knew the school listened to the. easy. feat listened well and made a considered choice a new country a new league and a different brand of football from back home. that. would remain differences just the intensity. plays walking around the pitch taking a breather. everyone sprinting all the time it's full on power with the. sharks will see often not that who has had any noticeable trouble adapting the ball into his friend another class act for the light sic attack. on the ball without. causing a chances making things happen in the shop and the. main strengths. and. it's a forward thinking match winner 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always been on the domestic agenda. is far from i'm from a footballing family everything was focused around for. just kind of grew up with it. and that's how it was with me. a piece among the going to sleep just best. for the moment he sidelined with a muscular problem and unwelcome new experience for the 20 year old attacking midfielder. injuries always on track. it's something i've managed to avoid for a long time now it's happened but unfortunately it's nothing too serious i might say that's what i'm back in better shape. the brain might even do him good we wouldn't want his nonstop success to get out of hand. i said. i. i his 17 goals last season made a new record for a teenager since making his debut for labor cruisin in october 26th at the age of 17 for having the only direction has been up until now. i think this is the 1st time in my career where it's not all plaudits and positivity and it's a bit of a bump but that doesn't deter me. i'll just try to show people what i can do again . and. his best friend in the team is no longer in the team. time to switch to dortmund over the summer. it didn't stop them going on holiday together with the poolside acrobatics also on the program. so too does he enjoy joking around just passing time with nowadays that labor has. never loses its niche guys and that he's a good friend and a very funny guy. of the same sense of humor and just get on really well together. out on the pitch the next few weeks could prove pivotal to labor good sense of entire season for the winter games before the winter break of. the rules are very demanding with the extra midweek match day. everyone giving it one last push at the finish line and this year i. hopefully will soon be back among the cause i have doubts one of football's free spirits that has always stood out from the rest. but before how parents returns it might be time for a new hairdo haircuts and footballers sometimes the wild style simply begs to be talked about. as if he wasn't 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nfc. >> is he the person that put it in the server? >> he testified to it. you have to ask him. i'd love to do this. we would love to have these witnesses -- >> love to have the server? >> i'd love to have the witnesses. >> we have people running around ukraine looking for a server under some cloud strike notion. >> we have 67% of the officials bribing officials as well. that's -- there's no credible witness that said there's anything in the transcript that was not there. none of your witnesses -- >> i find the president goes out, issues this unclassified statement and there's a statement out there somewhere in a classified server that may have gotten there mistakingly according to mr. morrison as you're testifying, but my question ultimately would be why is it there? why hasn't it been retrieved and why have you all not received it. i digress. let me go on and finish up with this unclassified -- >> mr. hastings, there's an implication here and i'd like a clarification. are you implying there's another transcript out there? >> i'm implying there's more than what we have here. >> which no witness testified to. no witness of your witnesses testified to -- >> understood. >> i was making sure you didn't believe there was another transcript out there. >> i don't know what is out there. i know -- >> that's about like with us the intelligence committee's findings that they haven't transferred over to judiciary. >> i'd like to see what's in the server. >> i'd like to see -- you and i are in agreement >> in that regard. we are. i'd also -- let me tell you what -- even the media in dealing with this statement have not gone into certain of this particulars. here's what was said by mr. zelensky. i'm truncating this shoe i can get off and let other members go about their business. he said i would also like to thank you for your great support. this is mr. zelensky talking to president trump on july 25. in the area of defense. "we're ready to continue to cooperate for the next steps, specifically we're almost ready to buy javelins from the united states for defense purposes." president trump replies, "i'd like you to do us a favor though". >> this is from the man buy javelins. he goes immediately for i'd like you to do us a favor. a lot of emphasis has not been placed on that language. i'm not a linguistic person. the last time i recall somebody asking me to do a favor though, it was for something that they wanted, and i can't believe that policy is what he was talking about. he goes on to say because our country has been through a lot. ukraine knows a lot about it. i'd like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with ukraine. they say cloud strike. i guess you have one of your wealthy people, the server. they say ukraine has it. there's a lot of things that went on, the whole situation. i think you're surrounding yourself with some of the same people. i'd like to have the attorney general", meaning our attorney gener general. my question is why would you like the attorney general to call your people? and "i'd like you to get to the bottom of it. as you saw yesterday, that whole nonsense ended with a very poor performance by a man named robert mueller, an incompetent performer. but they say a lot of it started with ukraine." my question is, who said that? the only people that i know that said that are the russians. >> thank you very much for raising this important point. dr. fiona hill, leading russia expert who figures importantly in this whole matter has testified before this committee and it's completely uncontradicted that this crowd strike story about ukraine being the one that attacks our election in 2016 is russian disinformation. the president there was repeating russian disinformation and propaganda. either wittingly or unwittingly. he really thought he had something there, but that's what he was repeating. there's nothing behind it. it's been completely debunked and discredited. but what makes me suspicious, mr. hastings, is that he decided to tie that in with his other plan, which is to get president zelensky to come and to point the finger at joe biden and say, this is a guy we're investigating. you talk about national security and how national security was compromised. obviously america is a country that nations all over the world look to. we're interested in our -- the security of our land and our people but also that of our allies. our strategic partners around the world. we should have some interest? what happens to ukraine and whether russia will trample them or not. if we say that forever hereafter we're going to allow the president of the united states to use the awesome powers of his office to shake down particular governments, whether they're tyrants and despits or struggling democracies that need our help but the president is allowed to shake them down, get them involved in a covert basis in our campaign. guess what? the president might think he's slick but now there's a foreign government that has guts to -- they have leverage on us at that point. >> would you allow me? >> of course. >> i think the process -- we're looking the wrong direction here. i think it is interesting that we can talk about all the other corruption around the world and the dislike of the way this president has dealt with them. this is a backwards look, not a forward look. you've rightly read the transcript. he was talking about robert mueller, which was coming out of the 2016 election, all the problems -- >> did you read the mueller report? >> i read every bit. it's my committee. >> and you disagree with the findings? >> i agree with them. no collusion with russia and he agreed -- >> and mueller said there were ten obstructions of justice by the president. do you agree with that? >> no. because he didn't. because he didn't. >> interesting. >> he didn't listen to the judiciary committee when they said here this, here's this. i disagree with your conclusion. you have to take the whole transcript. this is what i'm talking about here. when you look here, he's looking backwards. the mueller report -- >> i'm going to reclaim my time. and fiona hill is interesting. ukrainians and hill said they bet on the wrong horse. after being reminded by ken vogel that the various ukrainian officials, the parliament was providing false information to nellie ohr that made its way to the steele dossier and aligning with clinton. it's backwards. >> were you there when mrs. hill testified? >> not for mrs. hill. i'm happy to read the transcript. >> all i can tell you is she dropped a dime on president trump's actions in ukraine. >> but not enough to find it in articles of impeachment. >> perhaps alone -- >> abuse of power -- we disagree on this. this is where we can disagree. i disagree with abuse of power is a catch-all for this -- >> i'm going to reclaim my time. you're going to filibuster and i'm going to reclaim my time from you. both of ya'll talk fast, i might add in defense of mr. collins for a minute. it's very -- continuing what president trump says is "it's very important that you do it, if it's possible." truncating again because there's so much in here. i'll try to start mid paragraph with zelensky's reply. "i'd also like and hope to see him having your trust." he's talking about ambassador that he's sending to the united states. and your confidence and have personal relations with -- so we can cooperate even more so. i'll personally tell you that one of my assistants spoke with mr. guliani just recently. we're hoping very much that mr. guliani will be able to travel to ukraine, and we meet once he comes to ukraine ". my question there is, meet about what? when guliani comes to ukraine. the president just recently said that guliani is a good man and a patriot. he's doing this for love. last time i bought an airline ticket, i didn't present something that said love. the question becomes who is paying guliani. i have a theory about it, but i won't go into it. he says "i just want to assure you once again that you have nobody but friends around us. i'll make sure that i surround myself with the best and most experienced people." he goes on at some point "so we can continue our strategic partnership. i also plan to surround myself with great people in addition to that investigation. i guarantee as the president of ukraine that all the investigations will be done openly and candidly. that i can assure you". then trump says" good, because i heard you had a prosecutor", porshenko" that was really good and he was shut down and it was unfair. a lot of people are talking how they shut your good prosecutor down and you had some bad people involved." "mr. guliani is a highly respected man. he was the mayor of new york city, a great mayor. i'd like him to call you. i'd also -- i'll ask him to call you with the attorney general. rudy knows what is happening. he is a very capable guy. if you could speak to him, that would be great. the former ambassador from the united states, the woman, was bad news. the people she was dealing with in the ukraine were bad news. so i just want to let you know that. the other thing, there's a lot of talk about biden's son, that biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that, so whatever you can do with the attorney general would be great. biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution. if you can look into it, it sounds horrible to me." zelensky says, truncating again, that "since we have won the absolute majority in person, my candidate who will be approved by the particlement and start as the new prosecutor in september, he or she will look in to the situation, specifically to the company. my guess is he's talking about burisma. "the issue of the case is the issue of making sure to restore the honesty so we will take care of that and we'll work on the investigation of the case. on top of that, i'd kindly ask you if you have any additional information that you can provide us. it would be very helpful for the investigation to make sure that we administer justice in our country with regard to the ambassador to the united states from ukraine. as far as i can recall, her name was yovanovitch. now, that lady didn't deserve president trump commenting that she was going to go through some things. i quote him. "i'll have mr. guliani give you a call. i'm also going to have attorney general barr call and we'll get to the bottom of it. i'm sure you'll figure it out. i heard the prosecutor was treated badly. now everybody in the european union, friends of mine knew that porshenko was a crook. everybody knew that and trump knew that or should have or had poor staffing during that period of time. i'm going to end here where he says, "good, thanks very much and i appreciate that. i'll tell rudy and attorney general barr to call." i just can't believe that perry and sondland and rudy guliani or whoever the three amigos were were running around in ukraine in some fashion aside from the diplomatic responsibilities that we have with any country. yes, mr. collins, we do have an fbi. we do have people that do investigations in foreign countries when there's commissions of crimes and we don't use people running around. otherwise, they could use me. i was on the intel committee. people could have asked me. i went to ukraine. i did after the orange revolution, the monitoring that led to them being able to stand up there. thanks to the lithuanians and the polish along with brazinski at this time that we did that and then i went back a second time to ukraine to monitor their rookie. i'm no rookie in this stuff. when it comes to policy, what we have here is a corrupt president that wanted to do something to advance his political circumstances. as the chairman says, that is so wrong. what say you, mr. grassley? >> first of all, moved by your statements and also by your work for democracy and for freedom and anti-corruption in europe. that is something that has been very important to you. the president essentially empow empowered and outsourced an alternative channel to the regular department of state and national security council officials. and rudy guliani, as you said, was at the heart of it. we have a lot of testimony from witnesses that said when the president got some of report on ukrai ukraine, talk to rudy. he has the franchise on ukraine. we know what rudy wanted to do. he said we had an update on it. rudy is front and center in the campaign to -- >> on fox news this morning. >> he's front and center to smear our ambassador, the u.s. ambassador to ukraine who is fighting corruption. she understood that ukraine had a chance here with the election of president zelensky. and instead of bolstering ukraine, helping them getting the aid that we voted for them, aid that had been approved by the department of defense, having cleared all of the anti-corruption criteria that we have legislated in the department of state, which had done that, all of the ts are crossed and the is are dotted and the money set and the president holds it up. he puts this other team in action to engineer the shakedown against president zelensky in order to get the political favor or the domestic political errand as dr. hill said that he wanted. >> it is in my judgment a shame of what happened. my colleagues on the other side of the aisle, i can't believe that they won't address the facts as you have just outlined them and as i have attempted to and as the chairman has. all they want to talk about is process. this ain't about process. this is about the president abusing his power. you all will pardon me for not using my inside voice, but ya'll don't either. i yield back, mr. chairman. >> happy to yield to the gentleman from georgia, mr. woodall. >> thank you. i rarely find myself in disagreement with my good friend from florida. more often than not i find myself educated by him. i have to disagree with him today because this is all about process. it's all about process. i don't know how many minds were changed when the gentleman from florida were changed again. i suspect none. folks know what they think that they know, but to my friend from florida's point, is there a verbatim transcript somewhere? i don't know. you asked the question to the two witnesses that we had called to testify, two of the brightest members of congress in my estimation. they don't know. if i understood my friend from georgia correctly, there were no witnesses that are working on that transcript that you had an opportunity to talk to directly? >> no, we had no witnesses in judiciary. >> so my friend from florida is rightly outraged by his perception of wrongdoing. i hope that he's equally outraged by the inability to get information, not just our ability sitting here on the rules committee today but your inability. if we had intelligence commitsty member here, they could have answered mr. hasting's question. and i don't know. i'll ask my friends as mr. hastings did, is there somebody in this room, on this committee that believes that the american people and our support of the constitution that we've always sworn to uphold is threatened by having a member of the committee of jurisdiction be here to share with us? how are the american people advantaged by the absence of our -- by the inability of our witnesses to answer mr. hastings questions? how is america advantaged by that? my friend from georgia leading the judiciary committee said that he was told and i hope i'm misquoting you, mr. collins. i misquoted you before so i won't take any offense in your correcting me. i believe you said that you asked the chairman about a minority witness day and he dismissed it as dilatory. >> that was included in a long letter. very similar to the letter that was given. >> i have the letter that was sent to mr. cole. if we needed a finer chairman on the democratic side of the aisle, we might have other choices on our side but there's no finer chairman on the democratic side than my chairman on the rules committee and the staff to support him. i don't know if you've seen the letter. i'll share with you what it says, mr. collins. it says that not to worry. in this case, however, it says, chairman nadler has appropriately said that he will work with the minority to schedule their hearing. >> will the gentleman yield -- maybe he wasn't here when i reference the response before. he says i'm willing to work with the minority to schedule such a hearing. >> my friend from massachusetts misconstrued my statement. i stipulate what you're saying is absolutely true. absolutely true. >> can i interject? >> i was going to ask my friend from georgia what good it was going to do to hold the minority hearing two days or three weeks after we voted -- >> what does it matter if you throw the person in jail and say the innocence will come around? that's not what happens here. you can't say oh, we'll -- chairman nadler came in and said april 1 next year looks like a great day for your minority day hearing what good does that do? none. it goes to the basic fairness. i want to say one thing if you allow me, mr. woodall. there's no witnesses that says there's a transcript and that the transcript that we have is not accurate. that's a fact. i talked about process and will continue to. i also acknowledged and i'm a factual defense of what i believe the facts are wrong here. you may disagree with my interpretation of that. i made a factual defense. i'll go back to it. we talked about the four things that didn't change. the pressure. there's five meetings. if you want to draw a correlation between the conditioned aid and should have come up in these five minutings on july 25, we have the transcript of the call. july 26, volcker and taylor met with zelensky. the investigations never came up. august 27, john bolton met with president zelensky. aid never came up. september 1, vice president pence met with zelensky in warsaw. aid never came up. september 5, senators johnson and murphy met with zelensky again. the supposed link in aid never came up. i point out the last two. they're important. the last two were after it became public knowledge through politco that the aid was being held. nothing came up. facts matter. when you don't have the right facts, then you have to go to the amorphous topics. i have fought back on facts. >> mr. raskin appropriately points out that we're doing is precedent setting. i think he asked us to think of the right question. his question was if this were a democratic president, would your answer still be the same. i could care less about the republican president and democratic president. i know mr. raskin has a love of the law. my question, how are the american people advantaged by mr. collins having no opportunity to put together a list of fact witnesses of his choosing? have them share their story and then the very able majority on the judiciary committee, the democrats, cross examine those witnesses? how are the american people advantaged by that absence? >> the first thing we need to say again is that the president and his team had the power to call whatever witnesses they wanted. >> if i could reclaim my time for a moment. you've said that several times. the first time you said it, you properly caveated it with any of the 17 witnesses that the democrats called on the intelligence committee, the president could have called anyone of those democratic witnesses back to testify again. i don't believe you mean the president has the right to call any witness that he wants in front of the judiciary committee. you wouldn't give the ranking member the right to call people in front of the judiciary committee. >> he doesn't have the right to call irrelevant witnesses. it would have been up to the chair to decide if the person was relevant or not. >> so to be clear -- i misunderstood. the president has the ability to call a witness in the judiciary committee other than the 17 witnesses other than the democrats decided that they were going to deposition. >> he could have submitted names -- >> my ranking member submitted names. the answer was no, we're not going to do that. your definition of the fair and free process that advantages the american people is that the president could submit any name he wants to. the chairman says no. >> we're in the process of collecting information for a indictment. the trial process takes place in the senate. that's where they conduct a trial where their rules will govern and anybody presumably will be able to bring in whatever witnesses that they want to bring in. now, we have tried to run an open, fair and transparent process. >> reclaiming my time. you frequently and did when we established the rules for the impeachment process in this committee, you frequently referred to the grand jury room. the grand jury room is not intended to be a place of fairness. it's intended to be a room of indictment. >> will you yield? >> what did you just say? >> the grand jury room is not intended to provide fairness to any defendant. it's intended to indict as my friend from maryland simply stated. the defense comes next. >> understood. but are you saying that prosecutors don't have any other responsibility in the grand jury other than to indict? >> of course not. >> okay. >> i want to make sure. >> of course not. >> mr. woodall -- >> the prosecutor has an obligation to the people that the prosecutor -- in the same way that we have that same obligation and the words -- i want to quote him correctly. mr. raskin said there's plenty of fairness in this process. my question was how are the american people advantaged by mr. collins getting absolutely no witnesses before the committee and the white house getting absolutely no witnesses in front of the committee. the answer is mr. woodall, this wasn't intended to be a defense for the president. >> i clearly didn't make myself clear. the president and mr. collins could have called any of the witnesses who appeared, any of the 17 sworn -- >> any of your -- >> it's not yours or mine. they're american citizens. >> these are the -- >> the social security -- >> reclaiming my time. >> let me say we can't speak over one another because the stenographer can barely keep us because we all talk so fast. if we're talking over each other. i caution everybody, the witnesses and members of the committee to ask a question and let the witness answer. >> and i'm hamstrung, mr. chairman, but the fact that mr. raskin isn't the decision maker on these issues. and again, to mr. collins point about the clock being the master. mr. nadler, chairman nadler, has put in months of work on this. not as much time as chairman schiff has put in on this. but put in months of work and we have neither of the two committee chairman who have done all of the work here be forced to answer our questions. i have no doubt that mr. raskin is exasperated because he is an answerer. he's a fact provider. he educated this committee on a regular basis on matters of the law. but it offends my sense of fairness that my ranking member can't have a witness of his choosing. i'm not talking ant 100 witnesses. i'm talking about a witness of his choosing to come. the process gets described over and over again, the white house had plenty of opportunity and everybody had an equal chance to question. nonsense. nonsense. and to let that record stand perpetuates the myth that this is supposed to have been a fair process. i would argue it couldn't have been a fair process. it wasn't. mr. collins? >> just so we're clear here. the operative word that my friends from maryland said was tried. i'll give a try. it wasn't a good one to be fair in this. for me -- again, you can't have it both ways. you can't call it a grand jury where the prosecution calls witnesses. they have to depend on the prosecutor to live up to integrity. you can't have it and say we're a grand jury and then you can't say we're going to make it fire and give their side of the defense. they don't do that in a grand jury. here's the issue. in a court where i practiced, i never went to the prosecutor and say who can i call? the prosecutor said you can call my witnesses. at least at some point in that mix, mr. raskin, would at least -- and others on the democratic side, they would have to acknowledge that having the chairman determine relevancy of my witnesses called or the white house's is a problematic exercise because it's their determining relevancy that is discounting any possibility, any possibility of exculpatory evidence coming from one of my witnesses. they're saying they're irrelevant so we don't want to hear from them. let's make that clear. that's why this was, again -- we said it's very unfair process. >> mr. raskin, you said earlier and rightfully, you said some folks can't conceive that the call was not perfect. surely folks could concede that things were not perfect. mr. collins did not characterize the call as perfect. my question is, can't you concede -- >> i don't think anybody said that. who said that? >> mr. collins. he said he wasn't describing it as perfect. he described it as noncriminal. i'm misquoting his statement. my question to you is can you not concede that having the chairman who is leading the impeachment inquiry determine relevancy for lack of a better word defense witnesses is flawed? >> yeah. so this was the exact same process that took place in the clinton impeachment. the same process in the nixon impeachment which is the minority gets the right to request witnesses. if they're relevant, they will be accepted. it's hard to know what to do otherwise in an environment where people are bringing all kinds of extraneous conspiracy theorys to explain what's going on. >> to quote you back to you because i want to use the best sources i can. when you quoted -- when you cited the house rule that required the minority witnesses be heard, you said in your recollection that's not a condition precedent, to having the hearing and reporting the bill. you're of course right. >> you're talking about the minority hearing >> yes. >> yeah. >> there's absolutely no house rule that requires that we hear from the minority before not just the dye has been cast but the bill has been reported on the floor and sent to the president. that is not a requirement. you're right that we should probably go back a and look at that if we're trying to give the minority a voice. but you have to tell me how the american people are advantaged by hearing from exculpatory witnesses after the house has voted. >> okay. first of all, if there's a name of an exculpatory witness, put it forward that we've done nothing to try to get all of the president's men to come and testify. it's the president blockading secretary pompeo and secretary perry and the director of office and management budget and numerous other witnesses. to me it's the height of irony that you guys are making the argument that somehow we don't want the evidence in. we want all the evidence. that's why we want to hold the president in obstruction of justice because he's preventing us from getting -- >> it would not surprise me if you're right. so let me ask the gentleman from georgia, is that right? you submitted a list of witnesses and the president said that those witnesses wouldn't be allowed to testify? >> no, the president didn't say that. >> nobody said that. >> this is why hearings are good mr. raskin said it twice, if i would have called one of the 17 i would have got them. he said it a couple times, if not more. he said it several times. i understand this is tough. he is in a very tough position. he's doing an add mirable job for what he's doing. it's interesting that that would come out. i know he's an integral part of that team that if i called one of the 17, they would have been accepted, which is interesting. wouldn't it be logical for the chairman to call some of those 17 so we could have had the impression that we were doing our interviews? what happened in the intel committee, after you talked to them, they -- then they had to come back and some reuped their testimony. why wouldn't we have brought them back? you've done this a couple times. we did get that in the majority whose job it was to prosecute this didn't do it as well. >> as you recall, we fought that on our side of the aisle when this process being set up. thought it was odd that the intelligence commitsty was the only one talking to fact finders. tried to require that exculpatory evidence be provided to the judiciary committee. i want to touch on one more piece of process. my friend from florida raised it. he raised it in the context of mr. mcconnell and mr. graham, senator mcconnell and senator graham and they should recuse themselves because they have already picked a dog in this particular fight. i think we say things to people around here that the american people listen to that turned out to be flawed. again, i think everybody on this committee has great respect for mr. raskin. he's not just a value member of the judiciary committee. he's a more valuable member of our rules committee. but because i didn't -- when i found out i wouldn't have a chance to talk to mr. nadler, i went and brushed up on raskin's policy. i think they misquoted you, to be fair, mr. raskin. but salon did an interview you with you before the president was elected. their headline is "at least one democratic congressman is already preparing to impeach donald trump." the article is donald trump won't be sworn in another 48 hours. one democratic congressman has seen enough. you go on to talk about the emoluments clause. i think your legitimate questions about those issues. that was 48 hours before the president was sworn in. you're sitting on the grand jury that is impartially considering the evidence. the emoluments clause that yo were quoted on supporting impeachment of 48 hours before the president was elected, i can't find anywhere in the articles that we see before us today. have you changed your mind from then or do you think as politco is reporting that we're going to see part two of impeachment come down the road, that this was just impeachment number 1 and there's going to be impeachment number 2 and impeachment number 3? >> thanks for that question. i would like to have a separate hearing on the emoluments clause. i'd written about it. i'm here to represent the judiciary committee because of the absence of mr. nadler. it wouldn't be fair for me to get into that. i wouldn't with representing the views of the entire judiciary committee. >> that's perfectly fair. when we voted to table as mr. cole referenced in regard to mr. mcgovern's vote in december of 17, of course you opposed that motion to table as well. and at that time you said it was a vote out of frustration. and that what you wanted was a real inquiry into corruption and criminality in the trump administration. this was two years before this phone call ever happened. so again, i'm looking at articles of impeachment here. i have members of the judiciary committee that were certain of corruption and criminality in the trump administration that exists nowhere here. >> mr. woodall, you would cobb seed there's other episodes of corruption in the business career of president trump and the political career that are not part -- all part of this process. i don't know if -- look, there's patterns of conduct and behavior that have been noticed. one of them is extremely relevant to this investigation. that's what took place in 2016. that is when donald trump invited in russia, the whole world heard him say it, invited russia to come to our election. he welcomed their interference. the special counsel found more than 100 contacts between the trump campaign and russia nationals there. and then when it began to happen, the president moved to obstruct the investigation. that's in the mueller report, which we talked about today. all of those episodes of corruption. so there's a pattern of evidence and i don't know -- look, when bill clinton got impeach for what he did, you can find republicans that had been calling for his impeachment for several years for other stuff. there were conspiracy theories about him going on for years. that doesn't necessarily discredit what happened in impeachment of bill clinton. you have to take it in its own terms. we're trying to get back to the facts of what happened here. >> you're mistaken my intent. i was not citing comments that you made in the past to put you as a never trumper who's sole purpose was to reverse a legitimate american election. that was not my intent. my intent was to mention you as someone that is a thoughtful legal mind that had other legal concerns going back for years. when folks say rob what do you mean this process is rushed? we've done it 90 days. isn't that long enough? no. that's faster than any other process. faster than the fast and furious documents. but what isn't is a complete process i think by your own testimony here that there's more we could have done that we didn't do. my question is, because i do thinker with about advantaging the american people and the republic and the constitution. are we advantaged, are the american people advantaged by -- because again, politco is reporting that the investigations are going to continue. the investigations do not stop with the house vote tomorrow, we will continue to investigate the potential impeachment of the president long after we have already voted to impeach the president is the story that is out there today. are we advantaged as an institution to have impeachment number 1 and impeachment number 2 and number 3 as we did in the bill clinton era, put all of the articles in a single document after a longer and more thorough investigation and have this sent to the senate once? >> i'm going to ask my stuff -- i believe the clinton investigation moved more quickly after the starr report arrived in congress than we have so far. your basic question is an excellent one. you ask an excellent question here. all i can say is that we have a clear and present danger to our democracy right now because of the electoral corruption. this president invited in a foreign power to come and interfere in our election. he used all of the resources of his office to cooers president zelensky to come in to make these announcements that he wanted for a totally political purpose. we have to deal with this. we have a very serious and complicated problem to address as a country right now, which is do we want to establish that this can be the norm going forward, that any president, whether they're last name is trump or obama or anything else, can go to foreign governments in the middle of a campaign, lure them in either through coercion or through honey, whatever it might be and get them to participate in our election. that's a really serious problem. so look, i agree with you. and you know, you asked a very good question, mr. woodall. there's other things that are not part of this but that is because of the urgency of this situation. >> i take that point. >> i'll say it again. clock and calendar. that's why we're doing it. that's what it is. they why we say things like imperati imperative. it's a clock and calendar issue. when this fails, there will probably be others. that's reported widely, not just in magazines. straight out of the words of mr. schiff, straight out of the words of mr. green, other colleagues we've had. the current lack of proof is another reason why an abbreviated investigation is so damaging for the case of impeachment. it doesn't have the footing. if you're doing it because you want to get into an election when the discussion was a previous one, issues -- i can't help you in time and calendar will take over. >> we're talking today about reversing america's last election. i worry about the election after that or the one after that. of course there's always differences of opinion. i disagree with my chairman about much more than i agree with him about. but that doesn't mean that we can't find a process to move forward on together. it is not more divided in this congress today than it was in 1998 when folks found a process that that i could work on together because as much as we cared about the presidency then, we cared more about the constitution later. we found a way to move forward. moving forward in a partisan way is going to have repercussions. my friend from maryland knows that. he believes it's worth the risk. but it's a measurable and substantial risk. certainly the 13 of us, 14 with mr. collins here today, are going to be judged on that front because despite our own personal interests in the facts, we're not a fact committee. we're a process committee. i don't believe america is going to judge us harshly because of the way the facts come out. i think america is going to judge us harshly because of the process that has come forward. with that, i yield back. >> let me just say, i -- you know, we keep on hearing a lot about the clock and calendar. but i would remind everyone that we are here because of abuse and obstruction. the president's abuse of power and obstruction of congress. that's why we're here. and you know, i said in my opening and i'll say this again, we just have a difference of opinion. my friends characterize this as trying to overturn the last election. i look at this as a crime in progress. we're trying to prevent the president from rigging the next election. again, i have never ever seen or witnessed a moment like this where a president of either party has publicly invited foreign intervention in our election. he did it while he was running for president, he did it with ukraine. and the administration has purposely decided not to cooperate to drag their feet hoping that, you know, we'll get through the next election. i mean, this is -- i said it's wrong. it's beyond pale. we have a difference of opinion on this. i yield to the gentle lady from california, mrs. torres. >> thank you, mr. chairman. thank you to both of you for being here. i also want to thank my colleagues that have spoke before me today for using your indoor voice and for exercising a decorum. we're on the third floor of the u.s. capitol. we have to respect each other. today we regrettably faced one of the most solemn duties, the constitution that is in congress. i like all of you here did not come to congress to impeach a president. as a matter of fact, on january 20th of 2017, i stood in the freezing rain to watch donald trump be sworn in as the 45th president of the united states. i was there in good faith. i was there because i believe in the peaceful transfer of power. i was there because i believe in the rule of law. and maybe foolishly i also believed in second chances. that we would have elected someone that can stand up and represent all americans. but then in september president three months ago, we learned that president trump had withheld critical military funding to ukraine. a strategic partner in a war with russia. and then october 3, president trump announced that china and ukraine should investigate his political rivals on national tv. the president's personal attorney also said that biden should be investigated. now, president trump famously said that he could shoot someone dead in the middle of fifth avenue in new york city and he would get away with it. what mindset do you have to be in to say this out loud on national tv and to believe that? well, anyone that turns a blind eye to behavior like this is providing him that right. five gop primaries have been cancelled. kansas, alaska, south carolina, arizona, nevada. gop republicans across the nation are locked in step to defend at any cost the bad actions and illegal actions of this president. the facts are clear. to quote the "usa today" editorial board, trump used your tax dollars to shake down a vulnerable foreign government to interfere in a u.s. election for his personal benefit. ambassador gordon sondland, the president's hand picked ambassador to the european union testified to his abuse of power under oath. he said i know that members of this community have framed these complicated issues in the form of a simple question. was there a quid pro quo? as i testified previously with regard to the request, to the requested white house call and white house meeting, the answer is yes. we also have the rough transcript open trump's july 25th call released by the president himself. for all the claims that president trump was withholding military aid over corruption in ukraine, he never once uttered the word corruption in the call. he does ask for a favor though. a favor that has nothing to do with u.s. national interests. and everything to do with his own political interests. trump's actions were clear abuse of presidential power. he conditioned official acts of office on a political advantage in the next election. think about that. all of us here, members of congress, have taken ethics, training, on the house rules. and on federal crimes. i just did the training last week. we've all sworn the same oath of office to protect and defends our constitution. imagine if a city in our district asked for our help with a grant or an appropriations request, would any of us reply i would like you to do us a favor though. announce an investigation into my political opponents. of course not. why would you not do that? because no one, no one is above the law. not even the president. you know that asking for that type of favor is illegal. the rule of law is what gives our great country its strength. the rule of law is what separates us from third world countries where dictators reign for decades on. the rule of law is what makes us our great country, the envy of the world. the place that other countries look for inspiration as they grow their own democracy. it's the rule of law that brings all of us here today. as the only member of congress from central america, take it from me, that we never want to see a day when the rule of law fades away. i never want to see a day where american families have to send their children to live outside of the country because of public corruption. look at honduras. their constitution banned presidential re-elections. they clearly states if presidents tried to get rid of the re-election ban, that they should be removed from office immediately. despite this, president hernandez ran again any kwwaany. the supreme court in honduras got rid of term limits. now he's serving his second term in violation of his country's founding principles. honduras is now a narco state. we have thousands of honduran families seeking asylum. in guatemala, the people have been waging an uphill battle against corruption for years. former president molina took bribes in exchange for lower taxes. millions of tax dollars lined the pockets of high-ranking officials instead of meeting the needs of the people in one of the poorest countries in latin america. today president trump said after a meeting with president morales, in guatemala they handle things much tougher than the u.s. imagine that. cfig, the anti-corruption organization formed to bring justice to guatemala brought hundreds of cases or corruption to light. once again, they began -- once they began investigating president jimmy morales for illegal campaign financing, he promptly shot down the commission. does this sound familiar to anyone? president morales informed the former attorney general who worked to fight corruption to seek asylum in the united states because her safety is now at risk. does this sounds familiar to anyone? i bring these examples up to remind my colleagues that the future house of our democracy is not assured. we can slide back to tyranny one corrupt act at a time. until our democracy is like the fake village in north korea that faces the dmz, a nice looking facade, the masks of tyranny within, that's why the articles of impeachment are so important. mr. chairman, the constitution did not come from a higher power. it is just a document, a piece of paper with words written on it. but we the people give the constitution its power. we the people decide to follow and honor our laws. today we the people must agree that the laws apply to everyone. including the president of the united states. that is the president that we expect of all elected officials. it's the president that we must re-affirm in these proceedings. 60 years ago martin luther king issued a warning during the civil rights era which resonates very much with the choice before us today. dr. king said, "if you fail to act now, history will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people but of the appalling silence of the good people." let's move forward. >> as you can see, we're watching live coverage of the house committee as they debate at some point on wednesday, the full house comes to session. about 9:00 a.m. eastern time on wednesday. the formal debate will

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tonight, several breaking stories as we come on the air. six days until election day. the president and joe biden both making news. covid cases soaring. the new numbers. but first, the hurricane tonight, slamming into the u.s. at this hour. wind gusts, 110 miles per hour. warnings into the carolinas at this hour. and this will bring storms all the way up into the northeast. rob marciano standing by live where the storm is coming ashore tonight. the race for the white house. president trump in arizona. what he's now saying about the virus in the midwest. and elsewhere, where cases are now soaring. and joe biden tonight blasting the president after hundreds of trump supporters were stranded in near freezing cold for hours. some taken to the hospital. and tonight, new audio now emerging of jared kushner and what he said to journalist bob woodward about the president and the nation's doctors. the record-breaking early vote in this country. more than 75 million ballots cast so far. the eye-opening numbers from texas and florida. and tonight, the warning now from authorities in several states. if you requested a mail-in ballot or an absentee ballot, what you should do now to make sure your vote counts. and tonight, we're in the heartland with america's farmers. many of whom voted for president trump four years ago. you will hear from the farmers tonight on both sides. the coronavirus exploding. cases now on the rise in 45 states. half a million americans testing positive in just the last week. where they are running out of beds and health care workers, as authorities now look into possible second infections. the dodgers win the world series and right there in the celebration on the field, the player who had tested positive for covid and who had been told to stay in isolation. tonight, the fallout. good evening and it's great to have you with us here on a very busy wednesday night. the all-out sprint to the finish. president trump and joe biden and their closing arguments, with six days to go and with coronavirus surging. new and disturbing numbers tonight. but we cannot ignore the emergency playing out right now, the hurricane slamming into the u.s. at this hour. a record year now. the fifth hurricane to hit louisiana. authorities tonight urging millions to take this seriously, not to let your guard down. warnings into the carolinas. this will then move quickly and bring storms all the way up into the northeast. hurricane zeta with 110-mile-an-hour winds and a life-threatening storm surge for hundreds of miles. let's get right to rob marciano there getting hit in new orleans at this hour. rob? >> reporter: we are, david. the eye wall of hurricane zeta right now is cutting into new orleans. we've already had winds gusting over 100 miles an hour. south of here. you can see the winds ripping down canal street. see the giant palm trees. all season, new orleans has been threatened, but tonight, this city is taking a direct hit. tonight, fast-moving hurricane zeta slamming the gulf coast, with high winds and surging waves, as families hunker down. >> it does not look like we're going to escape this time. people need to hunker down and be prepared. >> reporter: here comes zeta ripping ashore in southeast louisiana. the third hurricane to make landfall in this state in just two months. this time, new orleans going to take a direct hit. >> this is not a drill. we do expect directly impacting the city of new orleans. >> reporter: the city closing its massive floodgates. and then there's this wall. new since katrina, just east of new orleans. designed to keep any gulf surge out of the city. it is huge. 26 feet high and nearly two miles across. five tropical systems striking louisiana since the start of the covid pandemic. zeta coming less than a week before election day. >> we've identified in advance all of the polling locations so that power restoration efforts can be prioritized there. >> what a situation playing out tonight. rob, we can see you are getting slammed right now. best you can, take us through the timing of this as we head into the night. >> reporter: well, it's the strongest storm we've had this late in the season make landfall in over 100 years, david. it's moving quickly, so, that means, that's good in getting through it quick, but it's going to hit a huge portion of the u.s. look at this. tropical storm warnings now up all the way into virginia with the path of this thing. tornado watches, a storm surge of up to 11 feet and rain, yeah, but my biggest concern is damaging winds. let's time that out. we're seeing it now in new orleans. we'll see it in gulfport and biloxi later tonight. cutting across alabama and north georgia tomorrow morning. and then into the northeast, it will mix with some snow, as well. new york getting rain and heavy snow across northern new england, but a punishing blow here once again across the gulf coast in louisiana. david? >> all right, rob marciano. rob, take cover. we are thinking about everyone across the gulf tonight. but in the meantime, it is now a race to the finish for president trump and joe biden. six days to go until election day. president trump at arizona today. at each stop along the way, saying we're rounding the turn on the virus. and what the president said about the disturbing new numbers, the cases in the midwest and elsewhere. joe biden promising a national plan to get the virus under control. holding a briefing with public health officials and blasting the president after hundreds of trump supporters were stranded in near-freezing cold for hours in nebraska overnight. some were taken to the hospital. it has become clear in these final days, as the president makes his case, he's fighting not only joe biden but the reality that there is a surge of the virus. cases up in 45 states. deaths now up in 30 states. here's our chief white house correspondent jonathan karl. >> reporter: in the final days of his campaign, donald trump is facing two foes, joe biden and a pandemic that is getting worse in the very places he needs to win. unable to ignore the virus, he's downplaying it and he's making promises. >> and a safe vaccine is coming very quickly. you're going to have it momentarily, that eradicates the virus. we're rounding the turn regardless. normal life will fully resume. that's what we want, right? normal life. normal life. >> reporter: campaigning in nebraska, a rare acknowledgement from the president that some parts of the country are hurting. >> the midwest, a little areas in the midwest, certain areas that are heated up right now, they'll go down. they'll go down very quickly. they'll be down within two weeks. >> reporter: but the president's own coronavirus task force offered a much bleaker assessment in a report sent to governors this week, describing quote unrelenting, broad community spread in the midwest, upper midwest and the west, saying, quote, it will require aggressive mitigation to control. the president still insists the only reason the numbers are going up is because there's more testing. >> you know why we have so many cases? because we test more. >> reporter: but today, the president's point person on testing says that's not true. that more people are getting sick and more people are dying. >> we do assess that cases are actually going up, they're real. because hospitalizations and deaths are starting to go up. >> reporter: he also warned that if americans don't wear masks, socially distance and avoid crowds, local governments will need to impose, quote, draconian measures to control the virus. back in april, the white house coronavirus task force released recommendations for a gradual reopening of the states. back then, the president's son-in-law jared kushner told bob woodward, in a recording on obtained by cnn, that the president was taking control back from the doctors. >> that in my mind was almost like, you know, was almost like trump getting the country back from the doctors, right? in the sense that what he now did was, you know, he's going to own the open up. that basically was, we've now put out rules to get back to work. trump's now back in charge. it's not the doctors. >> reporter: but the president quickly undermined his administration's guidelines by urging states to open up fully immediately. today, dr. fauci said that if states had followed the plan, we would not be facing a covid-19 surge right now. >> if everybody had done that uniformly, i don't think we would be in the position we're in right now. >> reporter: now the president is once again disregarding recommendations of health experts, holding packed rallies in places where infections are on the rise. after a trump rally in nebraska last night, the president's supporters were left stranded outside in near-freezing temperatures. a fox reporter tweeted pictures as supporters waited for hours for buses to take them home. many, including seniors, were forced to walk some 2 1/2 miles. some 30 people sought help from paramedics, seven people were transported to the hospital. joe biden today said it's a reflection of the way trump has handled the pandemic. >> he gets his photo-op and he gets out. he leaves everyone else to suffer the consequence of his failure to make a responsible plan. >> reporter: as for biden, he's keeping a much lower profile. his only scheduled event today was in his home state of delaware, a covid briefing with health officials. after that, he went out to vote. >> all right, so, let's get right to jon karl live with us in washington tonight. and jon, you mentioned there in your report, the president facing really two opponents here, joe biden and this virus, given this disturbing surge and it's taking hold, we take note, in some key battleground states. >> reporter: david, the virus, new infections are actually on the rise in every single battleground state. none more dramatically than wisconsin, which has seen an increase in new infections of some 400% over the past two months. >> of course, every state counts, but we point that out, given the fact we have six days to go until this election. the president counting on those battlegrounds, as you know. and there was another headline you're following. we all remember some time back "the new york times" publishing an op-ed from anonymous administration official describing himself as part of, quote, the resistance, inside the trump administration. and today, that anonymous official actually revealing himself? >> reporter: the anonymous official is someone named miles taylor, hardly a household name. at the time, he was the deputy chief of staff for the secretary of homeland security. i think many people were under the impression, i know i was, that the article was written by somebody with a much more senior role. miles taylor wrote today that he also wanted to recognize the officials who spoke out but did not do so anonymously, saying, quote, history will also record the names of those souls who had everything to lose but stood up anyway. david? >> jon karl. jon, six days to go, thank you. more than 75 million americans have voted already. that's more than half of the entire vote four years ago. and tonight here, if you requested a mail-in ballot and haven't sent yours in, what authorities are now saying you should do and now to make sure your vote counts. here's marcus moore tonight. >> reporter: tonight, the early voting tsunami continues. 57 million casting their ballots across the country. texas leads the nation with more than 8 million already voting. that is 90% of the entire vote from 2016. >> nice to meet you. >> reporter: democrat beto o'rourke lost a narrow senate race in 2018, but saw a huge increase in turnout. he is now canvassing with covid restrictions to try and turn the state blue. >> texas could end this country's national nightmare on the night of november 3rd. >> reporter: biden trails by just four points in the polls. the republican governor going door-to-door himself to hold off the challenge. >> i work in oil and gas, so what biden and kamala harris have said is very scary. >> reporter: in the battleground state of florida, nearly 7 million have voted, surpassing the early vote from four years ago by 300,000. enthusiasm at a fever pitch. in orlando, a woman showed up to vote just after going into labor, refusing to go to the hospital until she filled out a ballot. >> i was letting her know that november 3rd by 7:00 p.m., that she had to drop it off and she told me, no, no, no, i want to fill it out right now. >> reporter: republicans in the sunshine state making a surge. on monday, they trailed democrats in early voter turnout by more than 350,000. that is now down to less than 250,000 in just two days. officials in a number of states bracing for an avalanche of mail-in ballots. nearly 50 million sent in, but more than 40 million ballots not yet returned. tonight, this warning -- >> it's now important to return your ballots in person. don't rely on the mail. regardless of what state you're in, get your ballots in by your state's deadline. >> marcus moore from texas tonight. and marcus, several states, as you report there, warning people who have those mail-in ballots and still haven't mailed them in, that they might want to deliver in person now. even the u.s. post office issuing guidance tonight? >> reporter: yeah, that's right, david. the post office says voters should allow at least a week before their state's deadline. and they also report that their on-time delivery is below the normal rate and it is also critical that people with mail-in ballots remember they can go to their local drop-in location and deliver those ballots by hand in person to make sure their vote counts. david? >> marcus moore in dallas tonight. marcus, thank you. and on election night, abc news, of course, will be on the air, live coverage with our powerhouse political team. starts at 7:00 p.m. eastern, tuesday night, right after "world news tonight." that's one week from last night, if you're counting, six days to go, as i mentioned. the coronavirus front and center in this election. cases now rising in those 45 states. you can see there on the map. more than 72,000 new cases in the past 24 hours. more than 227,000 lives lost. and tonight, new guidance now with thanksgiving nearing. here's our chief national correspondent matt gutman from utah. >> reporter: tonight, the virus continues to race through the heartland. it took nearly three months to hit 500,000 cases. but that many new cases reported just the past week. utah one of 32 states the coronavirus task force calls a red zone. they're desperately short of medical staff here. so, you can create more beds but you can't create more doctors and nurses. >> right, we can't just make icu doctors, icu nurses or floor nurses. >> reporter: and for icu nurses like michelle marshall, each patient's death feels personal. >> when i fail, it's really, really hard. you know, and i'm sure the doctors and everyone in the health community can relate to that, that it's just -- it's just -- it doesn't get easy. >> reporter: the white house the task force urging utah to enforce mask wearing, but some businesses bucking the mandate. a minority have even called it a hoax. what do you make of that? >> it's -- quite frankly, it's insulting to health care workers and to scientists. and i haven't been spending the last seven, eight months of my life away from my family, away from my kids, because of a hoax. >> reporter: cases now rising in 45 states and deaths climbing in 30 states. tonight, more questions about how common it is for covid patients to become reinfected. doctors in south dakota are investigating whether 28 people might have been infected a second time with a different strain of the virus. dr. anthony fauci today warning that even if most americans are vaccinated in the middle of next year, we might not see life back to normal until 2022. >> i think it will be easily by the end of 2021 and perhaps even into the next year before we start having some semblances of normality. >> reporter: and tonight, dr. fauci also saying, david, that it is small family gatherings, six to ten people, that are helping to drive up the pandemic. they are often infected by their asymptomatic loved ones and that's why he's got some bad news this holiday, urging people to avoid those thanksgiving get togethers. david? >> all right, matt gutman in utah tonight. matt, thank you. and of course, this evening, a key constituency with the election, america's farmers. and the president joking overnight that some people say our farmers do better now than when they actually had a farm. abc's kayna whitworth in iowa tonight as we hear from farmers divided on who to vote for. >> reporter: lindsay larson has been harvesting this land in iowa for 40 years. in august, he lost half of his corn to a massive storm. >> i know that we've just gone through one of our worst harvests in 2020, but i'm already starting to make plans for 2021. >> reporter: the lifelong republican farmer among the crucial base the president won in 2016 and is now relying on for a second term. >> the farmers are unbelievable. they're the heart of this nation. >> reporter: but u.s. farmers have been left reeling from the president's trade deals, devastating weather and covid-19. the federal government pumping more than $37 billion in aid to american farmers. >> in fact, some people say our farmers do better now than they did when they actually had a farm. >> the aid was far from what the pain was. but the pain sometimes is necessary to get to an agreement where we can feel like we can go forward. >> reporter: supporting trump's trade policies, larson voted for him again. but the pain across the midwest continues. wisconsin losing 10% of their dairy farms in the last year. covid cases there surging. >> i guess i've always wanted to be a farmer. >> reporter: in iowa, mike holden, a third generation farmer, has already cast his ballot for biden. the money that the trump administration then gave to farmers in iowa to keep them afloat was welcomed but not enough? 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pence. we all know he struggled for about 24 hours during the first campaign after the "access hollywood" tape came out. decided to stand by president trump, has never wavered in the more than four years since then. he has been under tremendous pressure from the president to try to do something that would not be constitutional, to overturn the elections results. he made it clear that he could not and would not do that yesterday. tonight those clear comments of condemnation from vice president pence perhaps a final declaration of independence. >> and i am told that the president has not spoken to the vice president since all this has unfolded. they have not spoken, if you can imagine that, even as the vice president was whisked out of the senate chamber and taken to a secure location, no contact to the president of the -- no contact with the president of the united states. the break began earlier today when vice president pence issued a letter or a rather lengthy letter explaining that he would not and could not do what the president was asking him to do, the president wanting him to overturn the election results by unilaterally under power he didn't have to reject electors from several states that joe biden won. but george, i can tell you that shortly after all of this unfolded today with the storming of the capitol, republican leaders started to work the phones, work in person to try to get the republican objectors to drop their objections. this is something i am told that kevin mccarthy, the republican lead mere the house who had supported the objectors was among those republican leadership trying to get his colleagues to say enough is enough, that we must continue this, drop the objections and get on with certifying joe biden as the winner. >> jon karl, thanks very much. let my bring in chris -- oh, i'm sorry, we don't have chris christie. i want to bring up cecilia vega instead. we were talking to chris christie earlier today. he said he was trying to get through to the president to make this condemnation earlier in the day. he didn't get through. we saw what the president did after that. we have heard from vice president pence right here. it's pretty clear we're not going to hear from president trump again tonight. and the last words we heard from him were that his supporters who rioted in the capitol today were great patriots. >> and if we were expecting to hear from him on social media, that's not going to happen now, george, because his accounts have been shut down, particularly on twitter for the next 12 hours because he is essentially being accused of spreading these lies and dangerous information that we've been hearing from him. and he has been sending this mixed message to supporters, saying go home, but in the same breath saying "we love you." and yet then continuing to spread these lies. you know, the people who were in the president's inner circle spent much of the day trying to get through to him. they couldn't reach him. he was in a bunker essentially, not literally, but bunkered up and hunkered down and not talking to so many people who are traditionally and typically in his inner circle. and they wanted to tell him you have to go on camera. you are to address the nation. you have to condemn what you are seeing, and you have to tell these rioters, this mob, this group of anarchists as many people are calling them to leave the capitol. and that is not what he did. he had a camera outside of the white house and spoke directly to it and did a taped message, and then did a couple of these tweets that really tried to have it both ways, frankly, to tell them that what they were doing was wrong, but that in the same breath, he loved them and essentially saying that they are defending this election that he still feels was very much stolen from him. he is going down swinging, but the one thing we have learned in covering donald trump all of these years, george, no one can tell donald trump what to do. donald trump is his own boss. and it seems that he will be that way until the very end of his presidency. >> 14 days to go. i want to go back into the streets of washington, d.c. right now. the senate is back in business. the house expected to go back at 9:00 p.m. tonight. a curfew was put in place at 6:00 p.m. in washington as the protesters and rioters were being cleared from the capitol. rachel scott there at the capitol right now. what's happening? >> well, george, after hours of chaos, the capitol is now finally secure. but, again, it took hours. the national guard is now on the scene. they are on the grounds here, more than 1100. they came in from nearby areas like maryland and virginia, and that curfew, as you mentioned, is now in place. we heard the announcement warning people that if they do not go home, if they do not leave the grounds here, that they would be arrested. and so now we are one of the few people that are actually still here on the capitol grounds, other than the federal authorities that are of course here. we watched them make their rounds around this building. you know, the president made law and order a cornerstone of his campaign. and as linsey referenced earlier, i covered the protests here in d.c., and we did see a large police presence during that time, during those peaceful demonstrations over racial unrest in this country. this time it was anything but law and order here today. we watched as police here on the ground were overwhelmed by those mobs of crowds trying to storm and get in and break in to the u.s. capitol. and tonight there are some serious questions about why this building was left so vulnerable. and by the time the president did issue his words, telling his supporters to go home, the damage was already done, george. >> rachel scott, thank you so much. let's bring in pierre thomas, our chief justice correspondent. this should not have been a surprise. there was lots of chatter about the possibility of protests turning into violent protests. there has been great concern about the rise of anti-government, white supremacist protesters across the country, yet the capitol was breached today. >> indeed, george. and while some of the law enforcement officials, particularly those inside the building did protect members of congress, some were injured, we're told. but make no mistake, this was massive law enforcement failure, and the issue is why were the protesters, rioters so easily allowed to go past those barriers. we know they used chemical irritants against the officers, and then they were able to force their way inside the capitol. as rachel and others talked about, think about this summer when black lives matter and some of the other protesters were in town. you saw large contingencies of officers. and, again, standard law enforcement procedure, when you think that there might be some kind of disturbance is to have a show of force, george, to basically tell everyone involved, don't try it. you will not be successful. for some reason, the perimeter of the capitol did not have the necessary law enforcement personnel. i can guarantee you, in the days after this, there will be some examination of what happened. now law enforcement tonight will begin to dissect who were some of the primary players. were there some white supremacists involved today? who were these people? were there anarchists? were there people trying to take advantage of the situation? those are the kinds of questions law enforcement officials will begin to dig in tonight as they continue to investigate here. the one good thing sources are saying is they cleared that building. they're very confident that congress can do their work that they need to do. but lots of questions remain about who was involved. some of these people clearly came with riot gear. they had helmets on. they had chemical irritants. there are lots of questions as to why the intelligence was not followed up on, george. >> that's one question. and the second question, we heard, pierre, that chuck schumer called this day a modern day of infamy, ranking with december 7th, 1941. i was talking to jonathan greenblatt of the adl earlier. he said this day will be looked back on as a day of great victory by the followers of these movements. >> indeed. one of the things law enforcement officials have been telling me for quite some time, george, is that words matter. the rhetoric that comes out of washington matters. and we already knew that washington was a magnet for people who have grievances from time to time. and officials had been telling me time and time again, when you hear things like the election was stolen and the other, people always portrayed as the other, that they felt that one day there would be a moment like this where the people would show up and do something that was unthinkable. and today, george, it was almost like the law enforcement officials outside just could not fathom that these people would force their way inside the building. . >> pierre thomas, thanks very much. jon karl, you have fresh reporting on the president's involvement on these law enforcement activities? >> yeah, this is really something, george. there was a question of whether or not the national guard would be mobilized to deal with the protesters. and as the storming of the capitol was happening, we are told, our team, that president trump rebuffed efforts to authorize the national guard to come in, to bring the national guard in. all throughout the afternoon, he resisted, refused to authorize or agree to the authorization of the national guard to come in. and he was only moved to change his mind on that after the intervention of other white house officials who told him that for the sake of the country, the national guard needed to be called in and convinced him and urged him that if he did not do this, the situation would get worse. the situation would become more dire, and would spread beyond washington, d.c. and he finally agreed to do it. >> jon karl, i don't have to remind you, how many times last summer did the president call democratic mayors and governors weak for not calling in the national guard to take on black lives matter protests. >> i mean, over and over again throughout the protests after the killing of george floyd, this was his theme over and over again. if only they would call in the national guard. i'll do it if they won't do it. you've got to be tough. at one point, you remember him repeating the racist phrase "when the looting starts, the shooting starts." it was all about being tough by the thugs and the mobs. here you saw mobs and thugs storming the capitol of the united states and the president refused for some time to agree to authorize the national guard to come in to restore order. >> that is a stunning -- stunning piece of news right, there jon. thank you so much. i want to go to martha raddatz. you were out on the streets among protesters today. you were on the streets with black lives matter protesters this summer. describe what you heard. >> well, the difference, first of all, is extraordinary, as we've been saying. i remember taking a picture of the national guard lined up at the lincoln memorial to protect the lincoln memorial. they were in full kit, as it's called. they had body armor on and helmets and looked incredibly threatening. the national guard today in the streets, i didn't even see them. and they made a point before they were called in tonight, they made a point of wearing law enforcement gear, not military gear. so there was such a different atmosphere at the very beginning. and when i started this morning and was outside the white house on the ellipse with the protesters, and there truly were thousands and thousands of them, it looked like a regular outside trump rally. it was very peaceful. people were saying they were there to protest, that they didn't believe joe biden was president, but none of them talked about violence. and i asked them questions about what they wanted to do. but then by the time they went up to the hill, and by the time i got to the hill, the atmosphere had completely changed, and even on the way up there, when i had heard that they had broken into the capitol, i was asking the protesters, who i'd seen earlier what they thought of that, and they said they did what they had to do. that's what we had to do. and i do not think any of these protesters today who were up on capitol hill and did not leave for hours and hours and hours and certainly those you see there who broke into the capitol will change their minds. in fact, george, i think they have a new rallying cry because of the woman who was killed. and we were hearing that just about an hour ago when we left capitol hill that they were shouting at us what about the woman who was killed. she wasn't armed. she wasn't armed. so i think that rallying cry will be part of this, but a bigger part of this is they do not believe, and i do not think they will be convinced that joe biden was elected president. they think they were mirroring everything i've heard donald trump say, every message that donald trump has put out there about the election, they were echoing back to me, parroting everything he said. it was a hoax, it was china, it was -- all of the things that you have heard donald trump say about this election were the exact words those protester, rioters and anarchists were repeating. >> thank you, martha raddatz. terra moran, we learned from our intelligence agencies that the goal of vladimir putin even more than helping elect donald trump was sowing chaos, sowing division across america. a great victory for him today? >> a great victory in what has been a decades' long campaign of asymmetric warfare. he runs a country that is very weak compared to the might of the united states economically and militarily. but he saw a vulnerability. he saw our togetherness, our solidarity weakening. he saw our vulnerability to misinformation, which is a former kgb agent he was expert at, and he has pursued this for years in order -- because he hates the united states. he has said that. he hate what's the united states stands for. he can't stand as an old communist stalinist official and now as the dictator of russia the notion that it has some special moral place in the world. so he has tried his best to denigrate the united states and tear it down and to sow the kind of division, the kind of cynicism about each other that would render us weak and less of an ideal in the world. and he has succeeded. there is no question about it. donald trump, you know, the mueller investigation found did not conspire with vladimir putin with the kremlin's attack on our democracy in 2016. but as that same investigation found, his campaign welcomed and encouraged putin's attack on this democracy. this is part of the same campaign by putin to feed this disinformation out there. and i'd just like to say that it also kind of does jujitsu on the notion of patriotism. trump and his followers have talked about how patriotic, how more patriotic they are. they are the real americans. well, trump lost an election. it's a hard thing. it's a tough election to lose. what did he do? he started lying about it, sowing these lies and fantasies and sedition and resistance through the country. stacey abrams lost an election too, a tough election. she didn't accept it. there was an investigation. but what did she decide to do? build. build through democracy. one wonders what the real meaning of patriotism among the two losers of election are going to be. but there is no question that in the kremlin tonight, they're laughing. >> terry moran, thanks very much. one year ago this month, president trump was on trial in the senate after being impeached by the house for his call to ukraine, putting pressure on the ukrainian government. i want to bring in our legal team for more on this. dan abrams and kate shaw. dan, let me begin with you. the reason i raise that right now is you're starting to hear from democrats already writing articles of impeachment, even though there are 14 days left in the donald trump presidency over what they consider an abuse of power in the weeks since the election, the lies about the election, the phone call to the georgia secretary of state where he tried to get him to overturn the election, the incitement to violence today. >> yeah, and i think some people are going to say but what would be the point? the president is going to be out in two weeks anyway. well, the argument would be that if he were impeached an convicted, that would prevent him from running for office again. there is a single example of someone who they can even try even after he is out of office to continue with the impeachment proceeding. look, i don't know that that's going to actually happen. i don't know that it's going to get the numbers that they need here, but they're clearly trying to make a point here. and particularly when you hear information like jonathan karl's report about not allowing for the national guard, if there is more information like that that comes out about what happened today and the president's action or inaction, i think you'll increasingly see those numbers grow. >> even if there is not impeachment, thanks very much. the question of accountability does arise. we know that joe biden appointed his intention to nominate merrick garland who of course was nominated by president obama and blocked from the supreme court in the waning days of the obama presidency. the question of accountability is on the table whether it's impeachment. you've heard some talk of the 25th amendment given the president's actions over the last several weeks. beyond that, perhaps a commission to look into the actions of the administration. >> you know, i think there will be a lot of important accountability questions. i do think taking another run at impeachment might be a live possibility. you can imagine it happening very quickly. impeachment doesn't have to take weeks or months. it is true he only has two weeks left in his term of office, but two weeks, you know, given the unrest today, given that we have an inauguration scheduled two weeks from now, it may well be worth the effort to attempt another impeachment. and as dan says, it is possible to impeach a former official. so it may well be something that both parties in congress want to pursue after january 20th. and i do think the 25th amendment could well be on the table that is a mechanism for basically the vice president and a majority of the cabinet declaring that the president is unable to discharge the powers and duties of the office. and if they put that in writing and send it to congress, the vice president becomes the acting president. now the president could contest that and then congress would make the ultimate decision, but they could run out the clock and pence could actually serve as acting president for the next couple of weeks. and of course, resignation would be the other possibility. but i think there is a lot of debate you're hearing on both sides of the political aisle today about whether it is possible for this president to continue in office given what he appears to have incited today and given jon karl's reporting and other reporting we're hearing about potentially withholding permission for the national guard, which may have actively endangered members of congress today. >> and one final question for both you have. for the next 14 days, he is going to have the constitutional powers of the president of the united states. one of those powers, of course, the power to pardon. kate, let me begin with you. there has been some speculation about the president perhaps issuing a self-pardon, whether that's constitutional or not, as a protection against future prosecution. >> i think it's a very live possibility he could attempt a self-pardon. there has never been such an attempt before. the department of justice has suggested that it is not constitutionally permissible. but if he attempts to pardon himself and merrick garland's justice department does decide to pursue criminal charges against him, we would see a court potentially decide whether that self-pardon is in fact legitimate. you know, another possibility, of course, would be to resign prior to the 20th and potentially have an acting president pence do the pardoning. so i imagine that the president and his advisers are actively discussing all of this, because i think even before today, but certainly after today the president has a lot of very real legal exposure. >> dan, your thoughts on that. >> yeah, he definitely has legal exposure. remember, on the stateside as well. certainly in the state of new york, possibly now even in georgia. that's separate from the issue of federal. one of the things i'm going to be looking for is will the president end up pardoning anyone who is charged in connection with what happened today. there is a whole range of federal crimes, not state crimes, that these various rioters could be charged with. the most likely one is there is a federal law on the book which prohibits breaking in to the capitol and doing it by force. that's a felony, a serious one. and there could be scores of people charged with some sort of crime like that. is the president then going to pardon all of them and say it was understandable considering the circumstances. i think that's a very important thing to look for in the next couple of weeks. >> dan abrams, kate shaw, thanks very much. i want to bring in ken cuccinelli as the deputy secretary. is the situation under control? >> it is. obviously this was dangerous earlier. and just because the curfews hit doesn't mean we aren't diligent. we're guarding a lot of facilities in washington, d.c., a lot of federal facilities there. obviously the focus today was on the capitol. and that's been secured some hours ago. we had several hundred officers supporting the capitol police there. there is no further request for additional dhs officers. so that situation is under control. >> and, sir, we've been speculating, wondering all day how it was possible that a group like this could actually breach the security at the capitol. do you have an answer? >> i don't have an immediate answer. this is all going to get analyzed. i will say the capitol police is sort of a force unto themselves. they report to congress, of course. they're not part of the executive branch. so they do have a history of interacting with the metro police in d.c., the secret service, the department of interior, department of interior is a much more significant legal force in washington because of all the park space, national park space, and we work with them all the time. but it really is going to have to be looked at. i've seen some video taken by people who are present who of what amounted to destroying one of the doors on an entrance to the capitol that had no capitol police at it, which is quite surprising under the circumstances. all of us in law enforcement in the washington capitol area have been planning for this for a couple of days, not knowing where it would flow. but, you know, each agency has its own authority. and that question you just asked, george, is a very important one, and obviously we've confronted similar crowd problems around the country for the last six months or so. and you always worry when that outer shell is breached, because all sorts of new bad opportunities arise, and we saw some of them develop today. and it was not a good day for america. and the urging, including by me for people to be peaceful and have their voices heard without getting violent was unheeded by some. >> we just heard jon karl report the president rebuffed requests to have the national guard called in earlier. number one, to your knowledge, is that true? if so, why? >> i have no information to indicate that was true. there was national guard available throughout the day. that number was dramatically increased late in the day. so i'm not aware of any rebuffing of such a request, but, you know, there are a lot of agencies involved here, a lot of jurisdiction. and obviously, my focus was on the department of homeland security assets like the secret service and the federal protected service, and their interaction with the capitol police and mpd, but also with the d.c. national guard who was present throughout the day. >> ken cuccinelli, thanks very much. i want to go back to the senate floor right now. senator ben sasse of nebraska, we're told has taken the podium. apparently we're having a problem with the video feed right there. let me bring in rahm emanuel. rahm emanuel, you're a former member of congress, former chief of staff to the president and mayor of chicago. you said you've never seen anything like it. your thoughts as the day is coming to a close. >> well, a couple of things. one is i always thought the road out of trump back to some normalcy was going to be a long, difficult road. it got much more difficult and a lot steeper today. second, i do think this is a first step. i think chuck -- the majority leader chuck schumer, soon to be majority leader made reference to it towards the end of his speech which is this is the first step to our democratic principles, our democratic norms. tonight i can see all four leaders probably down in the basement agreeing that they had a historic responsibility to somehow rectify what was an unprecedented moment in american history. we haven't seen since the veterans of world war i were pushed out by macarthur and dwight eisenhower. there is a whole period of restitution. there is a big burden to the incoming biden administration, and today is an important step one in that process. step two, though, is a lot of people talk about impeachment or the 25th amendment. i think a quicker effort would be a censure. i'm not one for doing this, but i actually now am. i think there has to be a moral clarity that what happened here, what was instigated by the president of the united states was wrong at every level, and it would have a quicker to get -- i could argue the politics of that. i think it's a part of the revitalization of our norms that we hold somebody responsible who didn't just speak to this group, instigated this group. and as martha said, they were parroting what the president was saying because he for the last 45 days, i say the line goes all the way back to charlottesville, with many stops along the way. there is a direct line to this notion that he is not accountable to the laws of the country that all of us are, that somehow he is above it. and then lastly, i would say on this effort here, while we're going to talk a lot about the law enforcement, et cetera, and whether they were caught sleeping, i don't want to take away from we have a president of the united states who instigated and encouraged an insurrection in the overthrowing of a government. we're to say that that is happening in the united states, but he told us every step of the way he would never take a peaceful transfer of power. and none of us believed him at his word, but he told you what he was going to do, and today he did it. and we have to hold him accountable. there are mechanisms to do it from andrew jack was a president in the history that was censured. and he needs to as part of the healing process with all the ugliness associated with it, that we have to do that so that we can get to our place where we have to as a country be a beacon of hope rather than a symbol of rid cute. >> rahm emanuel, thanks very much. we have senator sasse's statement now. let's listen. >> i don't think we want to tell the americans that come after us that this republic is broken, that this is just a banana republic, that our institutions can't be trusted. i don't think we want that. we don't want that in this body. we don't want that in our hometowns. i don't think we want to tell our kids that america's best days are behind us, because it's not true. that's not who we are. america isn't hatfield and mccoys blood feud forever. america is a union. there is a lot that is broken in this country, but not anything that's so big that the american people can't rebuild it. that freedom and community and entrepreneurial effort and the neighborhoods can't rebuild. nothing that's broken is so big that we can't fix it. generations of our forefathers and our foremothers, probably not a word, our ancestors have spilled blood to defend the glories of this republic. why would they do it that? because america is the most exceptional nation in the history of the world, and because the constitution is the greatest political document that's ever been written. most governments in the past have said might makes right, and we saw some of that today. might makes right. no it doesn't. god gives us rights by nature, and government is just our shared project to secure those rights. america has always been about what we choose to do together, the way we reaffirm our constitutional system where we've got some governmental task, and we all in this body could do better at those tasks. but the heart of america is not government. the center of america is not washington, d.c. the center of america is the neighborhoods where 330 million americans are raising their kids and trying to put food on the table. >> senator ben sasse earlier today. quite strong words of condemnation for the president, saying lies have consequences. i want to bring in chris

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they will continue to develop those sea drones to hurt vladimir putin's naval forces even more. aaron. all right. >> thank you very much tonight and thanks so much to all all of you. >> it's time now for ac30, 60 tonight on through 60, the former president goes to washington to formalize his almost total takeover of the republican party. what he told lawmakers behind and closed doors when it signals about his plans, if we elect it. also time, cnn's donie o'sullivan and talking with trump's supporters about what they think will happen to the country if he loses and to appeal its are prize-winning historian. but what she thinks might happen if you wins. also breaking news on supreme court justice clarence thomas already under scrutiny for setting millions of dollars in gifts and travel over the years. now, the senate judiciary committee reveals three more trips he took did not disclose. good evening. thanks for joining us. we begin tonight. keep them honest with the former president's de in washington with his party, and that use the possessive to describe the republican senators and house members he met with today in separate closed-door sessions, each just steps from the capital is no accident because if he's done nothing else over the last three-and-a-half years. of insurrection and search warrants and indictments and trials and felony convictions. it has been to remake the party of ronald reagan in his own image at the house meeting, he made a point of reminding members that nearly every republican who voted to impeach him as either been voted out of office or retired? not that by this point, there's survivors really needed reminding listen to speaker of the house mike johnson was basking in the afterglow and majority whip tom emmer, a self-proclaimed tough on crime law maker, attacking the criminal justice system he said very complimentary things about all of us we had sustained applause. he said, i'm doing a very good job. i mean, we're grateful for that. >> i'm going to add anybody who thought that this president was going to be down after the sham trial after that crooked trial that we saw in new york i think again more than more than one member of congress and the house meeting told cnn that the former president has spent most of his time airing grievances about his felony conviction. >> afterwards that a house judiciary committee hearing democratic members were all too happy to bring it up. >> just a show of hands for anyone in the room who hung out with a felon today hey, guys. i everyone get your hands up i want to begin by quoting the jury in the manhattan hush money payment trial guilty guilty guilty. guilty now, it's remarkable because whatever you think it congressional decorum or for that matter, x presidential criminality. >> this is where we are, but we are a convicted felon leads the self-proclaimed party of law and order in his post-conviction visit, just a few blocks away from the place that his supporters attacked into filed is just another headline. and so is what one lawmaker in the rooms, as he told house members about former democratic house speaker nancy pelosi, after calling one of his daughters a quote, wacko he reportedly claimed that one of her daughters wants told him that he and speaker pelosi would have had a quote, great romance in another life. daughter christine, today responded tweeting quote, speaking for all four pelosi daughters, this is ally he also called milwaukee side of the republican national convention, quote, horrible, according to a source in the room, another lawmaker later saying he was only talking about crime. all from a single meeting. at this other meeting, his republic republican senator is also close to the capital. he spoke with minority leader mitch mcconnell for the first time since december 2020. the photo prompting this reaction from liz cheney, the staunchly conservative former republican congresswoman, who was drummed out while first out of the party leadership and then out of office for co-chair and the january 6 committee she tweeted and quoted words mitch mcconnell made on the senate floor in february 13, 2021. cheney wrote, mitch mcconnell knows trump provoked the violent attack and our capital, and then quote watch television happily unquote as his mob brutally beat police officers and hunted the vice president he knows trump reviews for hours to tell his mob to leave and quote, even then with police officers bleeding, he kept repeating his election leinz and praising the criminals she went on to say again, quoting mcconnell, he knows that trump committed a quote disgraceful dereliction of duty unquote, and is a danger to our republic here are some more of what mcconnell said on that day there's no question nod. >> their president trump is practically and morally responsible for provoking the events of the day those are tough words for mitch mcconnell, but just 12 days later, after he said that on the 25th, senator mcconnell, eight, those words telling fox is brett baer, he would support the man he so recently criticized if he's nominated in 2024 talk, it seems is cheap. >> join his now with more cnn's meloni's and ohno. what else went on behind closed doors today with trump will anderson heading into these meetings, lawmakers are really hopeful that trump was going to be talking about a campaign strategy or laying out his vision for a policy agenda. >> and now there was some of that. one of the more substantive moments was on trump brought up the topic of abortion and any counseled republicans about how he thinks they should talk about this issue. and he said they shouldn't be afraid of it. they should frame it as a state's issue. >> and you also encouraged republicans to voice support for exceptions not come across as too extreme on the issue, but for the most part, according to all the lawmakers that i spoke to, these meetings were more of an airing of grievance it says it was a gripe session at particularly in the house meeting this morning, i'm told that trump, of course, brought up the legal challenges against them, calling all the charges against him, quote, bogus he also referred for to the department of justice as quote, dirty, no-good according to some of the lawmakers that i talked to, he even at one point, complained about taylor swift, were endorsing his rival president joe biden. >> and he also gloated about how most of the house republicans who voted to impeach him over the january 6 insurrection are no lines hunger in congress. so it was very wide ranging speech, very freewheeling that member ce felt more like a pep rally or even a roast than a serious policy discussion. >> morning and taylor swift has not endorsed joe biden. do you have any more details on the trump mcconnell counter well, with trump and mcconnell, there was a very serious effort. >> i'm told by both parties he's to really bury the hatchet after years of feuding and years of frost newness right before the meeting, trump and mcconnell shook hands, which was captured on a phone photograph during the meeting. trump credited mcconnell with helping to elect more republican senators, and then after the meeting, mcconnell praised trump and said the mean eating was very, very positive. so just a remarkable inflection point. i think anderson, we're going to look back on this moment similar to kevin mccarthy trekking down to mar-a-lago in the weeks after january 6 and really just captures how much the party, including some of trump's former critics like mcconnell, have really fallen in line in the years after january 6 and despite these criminal convictions, anderson, millions and thanks so much, jonasson. i was new york democratic congressman daniel goldman, congressman. any surprises for you today in the visit by trump not really. >> he didn't come to the capital, which was good good thing because this is where he fomented a massive riot and insurrection to try to keep him installed in office. he didn't talk much about policy because he doesn't really care much about policy. what he cares about is himself and what he cares about is his conviction 34 times for being a felon and what he cares about her as three other cases and getting revenge. and he wants to do that by tearing down our democracy and what he was effectively doing today is greases the wheels, trying to play nice with republicans who support he needs in order to become president. so that he can take his fat let's just authoritarian views into office if he were to win. >> and it is just a very telling i think that mitch mcconnell has now bowed down to the ring of donald trump someone who, you quoted what he said on january 25, where he helped donald trump responsible for the january 6 riot. >> and has resisted donald trump. but now he has clearly demonstrated graded that donald trump owns the republican party. there is no other faction of the republican party that has any influence other than donald trump his maga supporters, obviously, none of us, there's privilege privy to the inner thoughts and mitch mcconnell. >> but why do you think center mcconnell made this choice? i mean, after, you know the strong comments he made criticizing trump theta, the racist attacks trump made against me kennels own wife. i mean, what is mitch mcconnell get out of this anderson, what do any of these people who have i know good mccaul's running. i mean, it he could he could go out on i'd like liz cheney, who at least, has taken a very strong stand ultimately mixed for the same reason since that mitch mcconnell refuse to give merrick garland a vote for the supreme court and then rammed any amy coney barrett through under the same circumstances, two weeks before the election? that's what connell has a very focused and narrowly tailored view of what he wants to accomplish. and at the end of the day i'm sure mitch mcconnell views donald trump as the only possibility to get these type of conservative judges who have now overturned roe v. wade paid back into more into the our judiciary and into the supreme court and push forward a clearly minority favored agenda that mitch mcconnell has been pushing for decades. >> it was seeing melodies and i was reporting is that trump was telling lawmakers counseling them on how to run about and talk about abortion and to talk about states rights and to not seem too extreme do you have any belief that that's how he would be if he got into office? >> absolutely none. donald trump does not care. donald trump used to be pro-choice. he used to be a democrat. now, he's out there promoting and celebrating his own work and getting roe versus wade overturned he will do whatever he needs to do to secure the support for his fascist anti-democratic attacks on the rule of law to undermine our democratic institutions. and if that means that he'll give over supreme court nominations to mitch mcconnell or someone else on the far right who wants to roll back our individual freedoms, even more than the supreme court has done. he will do that in a minute. and if there here's a national abortion ban that the republicans pass donald trump will sign that in two seconds. do not believe donald trump whenever he says that he will stand up for abortion rights, he has completely flip-flopped in his career. he will do whatever benefits himself. >> speaker johnson was asked yesterday, the former president attempt the outcome of the election. i just want to play that for years really for the first time republican house and senate meeting with him since the january 6 attack on the capitol are you committed or have you spoken to him about basically not not doing anything like that again, in committing to respecting the sort of american tradition of peaceful transfer of course, he respects that and we all do and we've all talked about it at nauseum i mean i mean yeah. >> i mean, i can anyone say with a straight face is donald trump respects the peaceful transfer of power that i want you to take that clip and run it over and over and over. that is everything you need to know. oh about mike johnson and the maga republican party. they will look you in the eye and they will lie directly to your face over and over and over. there is no question that donald trump does not respect the peaceful transfer of power he has made it a litmus test for his vice president that whoever that will be willing not accept the results. and that's why you have every single vice presidential candidates. so far refusing to concede or acknowledged that they will accept them the results. donald trump, it will not accept the peaceful a trap power. >> you don't have to ask me or trust me, he already did it so for speaker johnson to look in the camera and to say that of course he respects the peaceful transfer of power. >> put that on every bulletin board around the country. it is total bogus and it shows you what knowing liars the republicans are. >> congressman, i appreciate your time. thank you thank you. >> president biden met today with ukraine's president zelenskyy of the g7 summit in italy. >> the two signing a new tenure security agreement at the press conference afterwards, frozen biden spoke briefly when asked about his son, hunter i'm extremely proud of my son hunter. he is overcome and addiction. he is he's one of the brightest, most decent man i know and i am satisfied that i'm not going to do anything. i sat i said i advise by the jury decision. i will do that no i'm not pardon him the present-day also ruled out commuting his one-sentence seen as mj lee is traveling with the president joins us now from from very italy. >> so mj, earlier in the week, the white house appeared to leave open the possibility of a commutation or that flee not commenting at essentially overturning the sentence, not a conviction. what specifically did the president say about that yeah. >> when the president was walking away from that press conference, some reporters yell loud. would you commute your sons sentence and he answered directly. he said no that was after he had more broadly addressed the conviction of his son, hunter, as you just play they're standing by his son, standing by the judicial system, and also reiterating his previously stated position pardoning his son. >> he said, i will not pardon him. anderson white house officials had suspected that it was likely he would get asked about the hunter issue at this news conference, given that it happened just two days ago, he had not publicly commented on in yet on it yeah they knew that the specific issue of the commutation was one that could come up if you'll recall yesterday, white house press secretary karine jean-pierre was asked by a reporter whether she would rule out that possibility and she wouldn't say yes or no. and that exchange, the white house, new had taken on a life of its own when in reality, i'm told the issue was really that some senior aides hadn't had a chance yet to speak to the president about the commutation issue. corinne john p, or said yesterday to reporters, i haven't talked to him about this yet. i'm not just i'm not going to have anything more to say on this, but it certainly was a really remarkable moment. the president speaking on this kind of a stage. on the other side of the world about an issue that has been so deeply sensitive for his entire family, mj lee, thanks more in prison, biden's trip later in the program next though cnn's donie o'sullivan talking to trump supporters as well as a historian of dictatorships and autocracies about donald trump and democracy. and later there's breaking news turns out there are even more undisclosed it's trips supreme court justice clarence thomas took paid for by republican megadonor ave heart failure with unresolved symptoms. >> it may be time to see the bigger picture heart failure and seemingly unrelated he did symptoms like carpal tunnel syndrome shortness of breath an irregular heartbeat 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democracy? she is actually not as good as you think it is but for centuries, america has celebrated its democracy democracy is worth dying for democracy remains the definition of political legitimacy, but some republicans and pro-trump media are pushing the idea that america is not a democracy. >> united states of america kirk is not a democracy. we are constitutional republic. those things were america is not a democracy. you don't want to be in a democracy. we are not a democracy. we are a republic. >> is america a democracy america is a democracy. >> it was founded as a democracy. i've heard a lot of conspiracy theories. >> i hear a lot of things out on the road but to hear americans, people who would describe themselves as patriots say that america is not a democracy that stopped me in my tracks. >> you are hearing people say america is not a democracy because there are people around trump who want them to be saying that who've been planting that narrative? >> his america democracy i don't i think we'll never know, but yeah, we're republic. what's the difference i feel like democracy what do we think this through its government i don't see freedom in democracy freedom in the republic honestly, the word democracy and the word republic have often been used interchangeably. >> there isn't a meaningful difference between them. >> so much of the warnings and criticism about trump is that he is a threat to democracy, that he has anti-democratic. >> absolutely. if they can convince people that we don't have a democracy, then it's okay that trump is attacking democracy because it doesn't really matter that's why, like why has democracy become a bad word? because it's been used in a way to change the flavor of our country, which is a republic these words were used in different ways in the 18th century and it's true the founders didn't want direct democracy by which they meant people gathering on the town square. >> they wanted representative democracy. but i think the reason why does conversation about language has so now is because there is a part of the republican party that would like to rule as a minority and they need an excuse for why that's okay. and so they've begun to say, we're not a democracy. were, are public and it's not 100% clear what that means. but i think they mean we want donald trump to be able to do whatever he wants some people i've been seeing debt trump events recently. yes. have been saying american is not a democracy. it's a republic and we've always been my pros. >> first of all we have sleek. we're use that freedom of speech and freedom of religion. we used to have that two. now they're picking on the christians and the jewish people i mean, how much more can we are you concerned if trump loses yeah. >> that there'll be another january 6. >> no. >> i think there will be a civil war that's what i think will happen during this whole democracy republican is fascinating. this is the first i've, i've heard of that new thing that there are now pushing those. it looks like folks on fox are pushing it. is there a reason the people you spoke with think that country isn't a democracy now, i mean, yeah, look, i mean, i understand some of those folks. no doubt genuinely believed that i might have believed for a long time, this isn't necessarily a new talking point. however, we have seen it just revive over the past few months and they're really the reason we did this piece was over the over the past few months, just unprompted. as i was speaking to a lot of trump's supporters, they would bring this very specific lineup i love this real, it's not a debase right about the former government here. it's not a debate about democracy really why this is happening. and you saw it there in that piece, some fox news and elsewhere on conservative and right-wing media people are trying to convince trump's supporters, others that america is not a democracy in the first place. and we actually saw i haven't noticed that this seem to pick up a bit after president biden speech in philadelphia, where he described trump as a threat to democracy. this is how they seem to be trying to twist language to try and neutralize describing trump as a threat to democracy. because if america is not a democracy in the first place, then there's nothing to worry about your winning a solvent. >> thank you very much. one of the pillars of a democracy is the rule of law and laws of course are enforced by courts and the highest court in the land supreme court is once again under fire tonight. over new ethics concerns, specifically the behaviors surrounding justice clarence thomas. late this afternoon, senate judiciary chairman dick durbin released new information from a major republican donor about more undisclosed trips provided to justice thomas. it follows previous reporting about numerous undisclosed gifts from that conservative billionaire harlan crow, which include private school tuition for a relative of thomases and decade's worth of luxury vacations. last week after the release of his 2023 disclosures, thomas said certain disclosures had been, quote inadvertently omitted wherever last month in a speech, who railed against the quote, nastiness and quote lies directed toward him. draw now by our justice correspondent, just cash snyder, also a former federal district judge, johnny jones, the third and former federal prosecutor elie honig. so jessica, what do we know about these additional trips now that thomas took on harlan crow plane? >> yeah. the details just being released tonight for i'm senator dick durbin. the details are several new trips happened in 2017, 2019, and 2021. so first and may 20, he 17 justice thomas took harlan crows jet from st. louis to montana and then to dallas. then there was a march 2019 flight where he flew roundtrip between washington, dc and savannah and then in june 2021, he flu round trip between washington, dc and san jose, california. all of this on crows jet and really intersect. i mean, these newly revealed flights, it only adds to what we know were other luxury trips that justice thomas enjoyed, bankrolled by harlan crow. there was also but 2019 trip to indonesia where justice thomas stayed on crows mega yacht. so there have been a lot of previously undisclosed travel that's been gifted by harlan crow is a gop megadonor. he's active and conservative causes. justice thomas, though, i'll note anderson has always it's described him as just a dear friend and says they've never had any discussions about cases before the court. >> they've wow, i mean, that that's you you're hanging out with justice supreme court. that's kind of amazing to think. has justice thomas explained why he did not disclose these these trips? because he talks about his love of staying in for vrb travel and drawing ran on a bus yeah. >> so he hasn't directly answered about these recent disclosures, but his attorney just released a statement tonight. it says this. it says the formation that harlan crow provided to the senate judiciary committee fell under the personal hospitality exemption and was not required to be disclosed by justice thomas the judicial conference change this provision last year, and justice thomas has fully complied with the new disclosure requirement. so i'll expand upon this to really explain it up until last year there was in fact this personal hospitality exemption. so justices, in the way they read it, didn't have to disclose certain benefits, maybe from there wealthy friends, things like when they stayed at their friends properties or traveled on jets. it was just last year, anderson that exemption was removed. so justices now have to disclose these perks, but there's some question as to whether the disclosures need to be retroactive. there's nothing specifically saying justices have to go back now and disclosed year's worth of trips. but it is still coming out and it came out tonight from the senate judiciary committee, judge jones, does this make sense you why wouldn't justice thomas just come clean about everything harlan crow has given him or paid for. >> why go through this kind of drip, drip, drip? >> you know, anderson, i have no idea but this has all the allure of a slow motion car accident. it doesn't look good. i toiled in the federal judiciary for 20 years and i love it. i respect it, but this tears that the fabric the code of ethics that the justices are subject to, which is, by the way, not enforceable says in the first canon that it is there to basically preserve the integrity and the independence of the judiciary now, under the circumstances to the point that was just made he amended his is 2023 ethic statement and he added a couple of his trips when you go to the question of retroactivity, i agree it's less than clear so why would you do that? and not include the other trips they're just revealed there's there's no good answer to that elie. >> i mean, do you agree with the statement from thomas's attorneys saying that because the personal hospitality exemption, he didn't need to not at all, the spirit of these rules is disclosure and these are not just a small gifts, these are gifts and not donations, but gifts worth tens and hundreds of thousands of dollars. >> and the whole explanation that this is just a friend doing something for me. >> i mean, i gotta get better friends that this is something more than just a friend paying for his friend. hundreds of thousands dollars over that here for private school tuition for flights, for hotels violates every cannon in this ethics code. and if you remember anderson about a year ago, the supreme court for the first time ever adopted an ethics code. the criticism we made was it's toothless and i think now we're seeing that judge jones i mean, go ahead, judge. >> while i was going to say it's interesting to ellie's point about having a friend. here's the acid test, and this is not hard and it's not in the statement of ethics at all if you are making a friend because you're on the supreme court of the united states. if that's why this guy is friends with you, then i would suggest to you that if he's providing hospitality, that's just wrong. it just shouldn't happen. and i don't think that's a hard a hard test for any justice or judge observe if i had done this as a district judge, us district judge, i would have been absolutely subject to judicial discipline of the the most pronounced kind, and i would have deserved it. and so to me, there's if clarence thomas was sitting on this circuit court or was the head of the eoc. do you think that harlan crow would afford him this kind of hospitality? 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if it's not binding on the next administration well, anderson, let's step back a second and thank you for having me on and take a look at what president biden is doing at the g7 in europe he is going back to his third g7 with, our alliances restored and rebuilt stronger than ever with the united states leadership embraced in respected and he has rallied the world to defend ukraine, including with a $50,000,000,000 loan that the united states led and negotiating this week using the interest off of the russian frozen assets. >> he's negotiated this bilateral agreement, which is very valuable in that there is always a cost for the united states when it reneges on its commitments, when it walks back its agreements and while it's not a legally binding treaty, it's a powerful statement of us support and intentions in addition, he's just this week led and imposing tough new sanctions on russia and china. so with joe biden, we have strong leadership that is strengthened our leinz is not only in europe, but in asia and around the world, which makes america more secure and we have a leader who's trusted and respected we contrast that as you did in your opening with donald trump who is so profoundly dangerous, he has not committed to democracy at home or abroad. he embraces dictators he is the president, former president whose own vice president? national security advisors, secretary of state secretaries of defense. >> yeah, pretty much everybody on the cabinets of staff. >> all have set are unfit. and what does that say when the people closest to you say you're unfit to lead, that's very, very concerning when you hear from say that vladimir putin would release wall street journal reporter it just adjust if he asked, what i mean, does that make sense to you like, why wouldn't he then just ask now for that to happen? >> well, that's a good question. i understand. no, of course it doesn't make sense. it's bluster. it's, it's all dishonest and every day we hear something dishonest out of donald trump's mouth. that is inherently self-serving and not anything we can rely on its. you don't just get to wave a magic wand and have a dictator who's hell-bent on not only taking over ukraine but western europe and more if we allow him. and what is donald trump's say? donald i'm trump calls putin a genius. donald trump tells putin that he can do whatever he wants. the hell he wants with our nato allies. i mean, it's the height of recklessness self-interest, and danger, and it's not a future that we can be confident in at all, it would undermine our security profoundly at a time when the world is a complicated place, when you are us ambassador to the un, you obviously dealt with nations whose leaders disregard laws, carry out vendettas against their political opponents when you hear don trump talking about getting revenge or retribution does that seem i mean that seem realistic to you? do you believe he would do that? >> i do believe he would do it. i believe we have if we have learned anything we should listen to what he says and what he does is often exactly what he says and sometimes worse we have in donald trump a leader who is not running to be the president of the american people he's running for his own self-interest to try to stay out of jail and that is incredibly worrying. and when he says that on day one, he intends to be a dictator, that he will come after his political opponents and anybody who has rubbed i'm tim the wrong way. i take that very seriously and i think we all should susan rice. >> thank you for your time thank you. >> anderson. >> way up next to cnn exclusive. been wiedemann talks with hamas spokesman in beirut about the remaining hostages they are holding captive in gaza he asked them how many are still alive and why hamas is yet to agree to ceasefire. his responses coming up this is country is corrupt. we've got to save it do some terrible things for the greater good we need you build. >> for the soup, start rounding this up and dumping us off in kansas show me, wrap that doesn't sound good. ashley? 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>> you seem that count star from the beginning. let's start from beijing on. but one why to talk about the base of 7 october what about the israeli came after good luck to 7 october. it was a reaction against the occupation. what camps after that? >> it shows the real face of israel. >> it shows how israeli the cube buying the policy and lands demolishing the situation of the palestinians, killing the civilians. it's not the first time they are getting the civilians hamas is, is an organization. does it regret what it did on 7 october, given what happened afterwards? >> we are living with this for the last 75 years as palestine's yes now, cnn spoke to one of the doctors who treated the for israelis who were freed on saturday. >> and he said that they suffered mental and physical abuse. and what do you say when he is an israeli has to say what does lay authorities are asking him to say if you compare the images of both before and after releasing, you will find that they were better than before. >> i believe they have mental problem. this is because of what israel have done in gaza. >> but in addition to what has been said about the four recent hostages freed there have been also claims about the dire conditions others faced while in captivity. the fate of the remaining hostages hangs in the balance at the g7 summit in italy, us secretary of state antony blinken said, hoping hamas would agree to the latest us backed ceasefire proposal. >> response we got was unfortunately not the yes that we were looking for a yes that virtually the entire world has given. >> okay. mr. hamdan simple question. why hasn't hamas yet agreed officially to the us backed posel for a ceasefire who said it's a positive step but we need to see the facts on the ground. >> we need to know what exactly that president means by saying a ceasefire, i withdraw while what is left, what do you need we need an israeli ideally, a clear position from israel to accept the ceasefire, a complete withdrawal from gaza, and let the palestinians to determine their future by themselves are you optimistic at this point in time that you will reach some sort of agreement well, i think if the united states administration acted in the positive way, seeing the situation not only in the eyes of israel we can reach soon an agreement. and in the absence of an agreement, this war goes on with know site then i mean, this hamas leader justifies the october 7 attack by hamas. >> and as long as she had an others, which was a violation of an ongoing ceasefire, claimed, no one knows how many hostages are still alive. obviously there are people who know in hamas, any claims that the released, that the hostages who were freed just recently, the four hostages that they are actually better off than they were before they were taken into captivity. i mean, that's just absurd well, that's what he said, but you need to look at it through the lens of how it's been seen in the region anderson there lot of pictures circulating for before and after pictures circulating on social media of palestinian prisoners who'd been freed from israeli jails hills the pictures show healthy people going in gaunt, sickly people looking out. >> no. mr. hamdan, like millions of other in this region are seeing the pictures of these for israelis who were recently freed from gaza, who on the surf base surface superficially looked to be okay. >> so that seems to be why he's saying this and we're hearing it from many other people as well. keep in mind also that osama hamdan is a political figure in hamas. he is involved in and then negotiating process, but he's not part of the military wing that holds the hostages in gaza, so he's probably not complete the up on the situation in there. and i think what you're hearing in that interview is more a reflection, perhaps social media then his knowledge of the specifics of the hostages themselves anderson, where she refuses even call hostages, but been wiedemann. thank you. appreciate it. we'll be right back three body serie a. city client uses city's financial expertise to help drive its growth and keep its supply chain moving some more pet parents can get everything they need, right when they need it keeping more pets and families happy for the love of moving our clients forward, for the love of progress grass whether you're moving across town or across the country now, you can count on pods to deliver when we say we will, which is why we were voted america's number one container moving company. >> hook your move today at pods.com, introducing new advil targeted relief. the only topical pain reliever with four powerful pain fighting ingredients that start working on contact to target tough pain at the source for up to eight hours of powerful relief new abdo targeted relief all these games on directv and no satellite on the roof. >> think about this blue jays cardinals orioles. what's missing? 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cultivate the taylor swift voting demographic. >> this is one of the more popular entertainers musicians, and the world right now and it comes at a time where both candidates are also fighting for that younger vote for the younger generation some trump's supporters may already be skeptical of taylor swift and her politics in january pro-trump broadcasters and politicians put out conspiracy theories implying that the nfl had rig games and favor of the kansas city chiefs to promote swift and travis kelce and give them a platform to endorse president biden, none of which, of course, was even remotely close to being true wealth. how instrumental has taylor swift been in getting out the vote? >> this is why the biden and trump campaigns both want her on their side, wolf last year in september, she put out a message on instagram asking young people to register to vote according to tracking agencies. as a result of that in just one day, about 35,000 people registered to vote. that's how much sway she has especially among younger voters, turn biden both desperate for that demographic. >> very interesting guy, brian tied reporting for us. thank you very much brian. >> i'm wolf blitzer in the situation room >> thanks very much for watching. the news continues. next on cnn leader is reportedly caught saying we have the israelis, right where we want them a federal jury hands down guilty verdicts for hunter biden on all three counts against him making him the first child of a sitting us president to be convicted of a crime the wife of us supreme court justice samuel alito's secretly recorded what she said about the controversial flags outside her home, and the people who criticize to the flying them cnn breaking news but we begin this hour with breaking news a new report released just moments ago from a un commission finds israeli authorities and palestinian militant groups, including mass responsible for war crimes and other violations of international law. the commission has also found israel responsible for crimes against humanity during its military operations in gaza following the october 7 hamas attack. i want to bring in cnn's jumana karachi, who joins us live from london. thanks for being the un says it has evidenced at both israel and hamas have committed war crimes or report just handed down to mount. and what can you tell us? >> well, linda, this is a these are the findings of the un commission of inquiry on the palestinian territories and israel, this is a body that was set up by the united nations human rights council back in 2021 during the offensive in gaza at the time. and now for the past few months, they have been investigating the events of october 7 and events since they have released to reports, 200 pages long in total so with their findings on both what is happening in gaza during these military operations, as well as what took place in israel on october the seventh. and what they say here is that they have found hamas and six other palestinian armed groups it's responsible for war crimes committed in israel. and they also found that, as you mentioned, that they accused israel of committing war crimes and crimes against humanity during its military operations in gaza. now this linda, they say, is the first in-depth un investigation into the events of october 7 and events since they accused israel of obstructing their investigations, not giving them access to israel or palestinian territories, but they say that this investigation relied on interviews with victims and witnesses. they went through thousands of open source item is that they verified, they say through advanced forensic analysis, they had hundreds of submissions satellite imagery, forensic medical reports. now, when it comes to october the seventh, linda, these are the main findings. they say that these militant groups, hamas and these other groups are responsible for the for war crimes including intentionally directing attacks against civilians murder or willful killing, torture, taking hostages, including children and more. now, these crimes, they say, we're committed by these militant groups as well as palestinians. they say in some instances, in civilian clothing, they identify they say patron's indicative of sexual violence. and concluded that these are not isolated incidents, but perpetrated in similar ways in several locations primarily against israeli women. and the indiscriminate firing of thousands of projectiles against israeli towns and cities. they say that causing deaths and injuries is a violation of international humanitarian and human rights law. then you've got the report on what is happening and what has happened in gaza during these military operations, there accusing israel of these war crimes and crimes against humanity, including you including using starvation as a method of warfare, murder, and willful killing intentionally directing attacks against civilians, sexual violence extermination, gender, persecution of palestinian men and boys, murder forcible transfer and the list goes on. what they say is when you look at the immense number of civilian casualties in gaza, the widespread destruction they say that this is the result of what they have found to be a strategy to cause maximum damage, disregarding the rules of war, the principles of distinction shin proportionality, an adequate precautions. and what they say is the intentional use of heavy weapons with a large destructive capacity in densely populated areas. they say that you know, all these evacuation orders that the israeli authorities have issued, that that was not adequate, that that was not enough. that they found that civilians as well came under attack when taking these evacuation routes or in designated safe areas and then they go into the humanitarian situation where they say they have found to be a total siege of gaza imposed by israel. and they say that this as what they found here to be the use of the weaponization of aid and access to gaza. saying that this was what is happening amounts to punishment. collective punishment against the civilian population and they also found instances they say a significant number of civilians who posed no threat intentionally killed by israeli forces. and in these cases, linda, we have to mention that they mentioned, they cite to reports that were reported by us at cnn over the past few months. now we have now reached out to the israeli government for comment. but it's worth mentioning here that they have made their position very clear on this commission. they said that they are not going to cooperate with them months ago. accusing this body of being an anti-israel and anti-semitic body, they have had issues with members of the commission. and of course, this is coming we've seen the tensions rising, the relationship deteriorated between the united name nations and israel over the past during the conflict, as much as israel has come under criticism for its military operations in gaza, it has accused the united nations and several of its bodies and of an anti israel bias and not being fair towards israel. but we will we will continue to try and get more common from israeli authorities today on these findings, linda yeah, we will stay across history or de john monocrop. good to have you with us on this breaking news story. thanks very much we are following more breaking news out of israel, whether military says a large missile barrage has been fired from lebanon towards its northern territory. the idf said about 90 projectiles cross the border in total with some marking fires seen as ben wade, him and following developments for us and joins us live from a root. good to have you there first ben, so they're fighting it. the israel-lebanon border is continuing to intensified is take us through this escalation yeah i mean, what we're what we're seeing is real intensification overnight, there was a strike in the town of zwei. >> you wear we're hearing reports of four people killed. and in fact his butler on its telegram channel has come out and said that four of its fighters were killed, including a senior commander by the name of tlaib sammy abdullah now, we don't know if they were actually killed in this strike in southern lebanon because his butler never says where they're people were killed. but it appears that this is a is, described as a commander. so in response, it appears hamas has fired a volley of rockets from the lebanese sayyed, where hearing more than 50 the israelis are saying as many as 90 according to the israeli media, it is caused fires in parts of northern israel. now, video has come out on social media showing that most of those rockets fired from lebanon have been intercepted and intercepted presumably by the iron dome system, but certainly what we've seen in the last week is that his bulla is used because in weaponry that seems to be somewhat more sophisticated last week it appears that they were able to take out one of those iron dome batteries, several days ago, hizballah was able to shoot down a hermes 19 is rarely drone. that's the third so far. now those drones fly at a very high altitude indicating that hezbollah is now using fairly sophisticated anti-aircraft weaponry. twice in the last week, they've also used anti-aircraft missiles to fire at is israeli planes in lebanese airspace. so although much of the focus of the last few days has been on the situation in gaza and israel. the situation on the border between lebanon and israel is becoming increasingly tense. and there is ever more talk of the possibility of war between israel and his berlin fact this morning, we heard the iranian foreign minister warning israel not to fall into well of lebanon know, suddenly a frightening thought of ben, but i do if weekend for a moment want to turn our focus back to gaza because the fate of that latest proposal for a ceasefire seems more unclear right now, what are you hearing from hamas in terms of baer response to this proposal? well, it appears both sides are accusing the other of rejecting the proposal. now, israel is telling, saying israeli officials are saying that hamas is rejected. hamas has responded saying, no, we haven't rejected it. in fact, is a rich pays a member of hamas is politburo is saying the palestinian factions have responded positively and seriously to the proposal and are accusing israeli media of incitement and attempting to confuse the situation. it's a bit like when you're bargaining in the soup just because you reject a price doesn't necessarily mean you're not going to buy the goods. this is a bargaining, this is negotiations. so at this point, i think both sides are accusing the other of rejecting it, but i don't think we can say that the deal is dead yet. it's just bargaining and we will continue to see what comes out of the next round of mediation band wiedemann forests, covering all those developments. >> thanks so much. well, hunter biden, the son of joe biden, is now the first child of a sitting us president to be found guilty of a crime after his conviction on three federal felony gun charges the president braced his son off to landing and delaware hours after tuesday's verdict, the jury deliberated for less than three hours concluding that hunter biden violated laws meant to prevent those suffering from substance abuse from buying or owning a firearm and of course, it created an awkward political moment for the us president who just hours after his sons conviction, was speaking at a previously scheduled gun safety event harold, in his efforts to strengthen gumballs and enhance the penalties for those who violate them. well, let's discuss this where the riva martin and attorney and legal affairs commentator, she joins us from los angeles. good to have you with us hi. sorry. i had to buy it and found guilty of three felonies lying to a licensed firearms gun deal. i'm making a false claim and a firearms application. and of course, possessing that illegally obtained gun for those 11 days he does face up to 25 years in prison. but could get a fraction of that. what do you anticipate well, one thing we do know is that hunter biden does not have any prior felony or any kinds of convictions on his record he didn't use the gun that he purchased for any crime, so no crime was committed with bad gun. >> he has been according to reports, clean and sober now for at least four or five years, given that he is likely to demonstrate a great deal of remorse, given the types of mitigation letters and testimony that we will see from supporters and friends. i think he'll get the lowest sentence possible, and i think it's so important to note that this case, the case that was brought against hunter biden several former prosecutors who had been in charge of us attorney's offices said this is not the kind of case that they would have even brought so i think we can't overlook a gloss over the political aspect of this prosecution. so i don't expect there to be any sentence in the range. what's being reported with respect to the 25 years, i think it'll be at the lowest end of the sentencing range yeah. >> an array that just on that point, as you alluded to people at the bureau of alcohol, tobacco, firearms, and explosives, did apparently say that anyone else would have seen these these charges dropped with this case drop if he wasn't as well-known, just how unusual is it for someone we know criminal record to go to court for an offense like this it's very unusual. >> i saw some statistic that you've talked about less than three to 5% of individuals in this situation would have ever had charges brought. and even if charges were brought most likely this was the kind of case they would have resulted in a plea deal, not the kind of case that would have occupied the time and resources that we saw the government put forth and you can't help again, but look at all of the personal and very embarrassing information that was revealed during this trial, it seemed like the trial was about embarrassing hunter biden and therefore embarrassing the entire biden family more so than seeking justice, i was quite surprised. i should say, at the outcome at the verdict by the jury, i thought there would be jury nullification. i thought the jury would look at this and say this just doesn't pass the smell test. there's something blatantly unfair about this prosecution but they looked at the facts and said they put aside of the reality that this was the president's son. and reach their conclusion. and like democrats have been saying throughout the day you have to accept the verdict the jury, and i'm prepared to do that, but i was surprised by it of course hunter biden does face and other trial in september over his failure to pay his income taxes during a years-long crack alcohol spending binge. should that case b. of more concern to him? >> woke absolutely much much more serious case of very easy to prove cases where there are allegations of failure to pay federal income taxes the allegations here is that he failed to pay over $1 million over a three-year period. >> but i think we're going to see something happened in the tax evasion in case based on what we saw in the case that just resulted in the conviction, and that's probably a lot of testimony about his drug use, about his addiction that probably had something to do played some role in why he did not pay his federal taxes. >> again, this is the case linda that ordinarily would have been resolved by plea deal and remember, there was a deal that was interred into by the special prosecutor and biden's attorneys that would have allowed for both the cases, the gun charge case, and the tax case to be resolved without going to trial. >> and so given that it is going to go to trial, the second case in september does tuesday's guilty verdict potentially raise the stakes for any future sentencing? >> absolutely. yeah. again, i don't think he has much jeopardy when it comes to the convictions today, the nature of the charges, his background, what we expect to see in terms of mitigation however, the federal income tax evasion charges we've seen very a high-profile famous people serve jail time on very similar charges. so my estimate is that to the extent there is jail time and that hunter biden has to serve any jail time. it's much more likely to be related to the tax evasion case than it is with respect to the gun charge case. >> right? good to get you on the program or even martin, as always, thanks so much for your time thank you. linda will the new are controversy for the us supreme court one justice and his wife are caught on tape speaking to someone they thought was a religious conservative that conversation next telling me what you want from this want to be a scar, cool to be normal, liked this is waiting for who knows where it traumas you, i will not let you down if i were you know, i've 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recordings on monday jessica schneider explains what they reveal tonight. >> no comment from the supreme court after two of its most senior justices and one of their spouses are heard on secret recordings discussing sensitive topics. >> people in this country, believing god, embedded, keep fighting to return our country a place the bodley names i agree with justice samuel alito speaking to lauren windsor during a dinner last week hosted by the supreme court historical society windsor, a liberal activist posing as a devout catholic when talking with the justice, where he also addresses the current polarization of the country we can go the polar i think it is a matter of like i think you're probably one side or the other side or the other is i don't know i mean, there can be a way of working our way of living together peacefully it's different because there are differences. >> one fundamental things that really can't comment it's not like we're going to split the difference this society condemned the secret recordings saying attendees are advised not to discuss anything from the event. >> windsor defended her actions today in an interview with cnn, there's nothing illegal in a dc about recording people so long as one person is a party to that conversation, to people who want to pearl clutch about this yeah. >> please tell me how we're going to get answers when the supreme court has been shrouded in secrecy. >> and really just refusing any degree of accountability whatsoever. >> cnn has not independent candidly obtained or heard the recordings in full, but they come after recent ethics concerns involving the court, including controversial flags flown at homes of justice alito flags that the justice said were put up by his wife martha-ann alito, also heard on the audio for xi addressed the flag controversy head-on. >> know what i want. i want sacred. heart of jesus glad because i had to look cross the lagoon at the pride flag for the next month. >> exactly. >> and he's like, oh, please don't put up a flag. >> i can i won't do it because i'm deferring to you. >> but when you are free of this nonsense, i'm putting it up and i'm going to send them most of every day, maybe every week. >> i'll be changing the flags. >> windsor also secretly recorded chief justice john roberts, who rebuffed her when she made a case for more christian society we live in a christian nation and our supreme court to be guiding i don't know, that we live. >> in a christian nation. i know a lot of jewish and muslim friends who would say maybe not. and it's not our job to do that. it's our job to decide i do the cases, especially we have not seen any comment on the secret recordings from the supreme court or from the justices or justice alito's wife. >> now the supreme court historical society hosted this dinner where the recordings were made. it is a yearly event held inside the court building. were members because of the society are allowed to buy tickets for themselves and one guest. and the gathering provides members rare access to the justices as we saw in these secret recordings jessica schneider, cnn, washington one doesn't his dad and a suspect now in custody following the hijacking of the commuter bus here in atlanta tuesday. well, 30 say they responded to our port of gunfire on the bus when they arrived, the boss took off with 17 people on board that led police on a dangerous rush hour chase through heavy traffic the bus striking several vehicles along the way. >> when it finally came to a stop, the suspected gunman was arrested on board, plays found a bus driver with a gunshot wound, who later died in hospital. here's what the city's mayor had to say about that harrowing ordeal. >> no mayor, no, no chief no share if nobody wants to have a day like this, a gunman with a gun to the head of a bus driver saying, don't stop this bus oh else, worst will happen. this is the type of thing is that obviously no one is. i mean, it seems like the movies stood a 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lot extraordinary access to some of the facilities at those camps. as well as the notorious panorama prison this is her exclusive report and a warning. it begins with some disturbing images cell phone videos of isis is brutal justice that the world hoped it would never see again. she might want him amash shared for the first time with cnn these images or captured in rocco or mosley in 2016 they were taken in 2022 in the al-hol camp in northern syria the sprawling dumping ground for the women and children captured after isis was defeated five years after the fall of the caliphate, isis is ideology lives on here security officials warn it is a ticking time bomb ungovernable and hostile to the outside world. you can see just how fast this place is more than 40,000 people are living here in the most dangerous part. >> the camp is called the annex. that's where some 6,000 foreign nationals are currently within we were granted exceptionally rare access to the annex by the us back syrian democratic forces sdf, who control the camp the women here hail from more than 60 different countries several raise their right index fingers for the cameras sign of solidarity with the islamic state do you regret your decision to join isis or wash she complains that the conditions in the camp are awful there are people in the world who will say, you went to join isis. you deserve it. you deserve it. what do you say to that? >> normally if enemy yeah women need me for the majority of alcohols residents are kids who have ended up here through no fault of their own un has called it a blight on the conscience of humanity. >> it is effectively a prison camp for women and children are arbitrarily and indefinitely detained should to a group stops us with a frantic plea. >> one of their sons has been arrested trying to escape the camp. >> she's asking if she can get her son back, who's in a prison the youth mark, we want to just send him out. >> so the sdf wouldn't take him. she tells us once boys turn 12, here, they take them it is a troubling story we hear over and over again the sdf says, it is their policy to separate adolescent boys because they are being radicalized as by their mothers an sdf raid earlier this year netted this video of a training session for children inside the camp. the sdf claims young teenage boys are married off to repopulate the next generation of isis fighters they say may explain the roughly 60 births recorded here every month this is where some of those boys end up after they are taken the or cash rehabilitation center conditions here are much better than the camps, but there are only 150 beds and they are all full shamil cha car grew up in cologne, germany until his parents took the family to the isis capital rocha. a shrapnel injury to his head has left shamil confused how old are you? chem omitted without if you don't know shamil was living in our whole camp with his mother and siblings until a few years ago when security forces came into their tent in the middle of the night in colombia enough for a man came and pulled me up and tied my hands behind my back. my mom was screaming. she said leave him alone. he tells us i didn't want to go with them. he pushed me saying, put on your shoes, but i didn't hit me islam is from dagestan on russia and is one of the youngest boys here which gives me three to it via mama hey so he's saying that he is just 12-years-old. he has been here about three or four months. he was taken from his mother he doesn't even know what his last name is human rights organizations have said the separations are on a pauling violation of international law but the sds top general muslim abdi defends the policy. >> no duck ethnic instead of these organizations condemning what we're doing and calling it a human rights violation. >> these organizations should give us help when it comes to our program that we have in place for years now to rehabilitate these children. >> but part of the problem seem it's to be that once these young boys turn 18, there's not anywhere for them to go, particularly if they can't return to their home countries and so some of them, i believe are ending up in prison necessity taken when he says, this is not a policy that we are following to put them in prison at 18 the reality is the goal is to reintegrate them with society but cnn has found that boys as young as 14 had been held here at the notorious panorama prison with an estimated 4,000 inmates. it is the largest concentration of isis fighters in the world. no journalist has been allowed inside panorama since 2021 until now so the head of the prison has asked me to put on a head scarf where we walk through here because these are some of the most radicalized prisoners they have a senior us official told us the number one concern at panorama is a prison break the fear that was realized in 2022 when hundreds of inmates managed to escape and i. >> look inside 25 men sit cross-legged in silence cell is spotless the men, we see appear to be indecent physical condition but tuberculosis is rampant in the prison. and we are only allowed to look inside two cells versus your, where you a british man approaches the great, but does not want to show his face i know advocacy groups called the us funded panorama illegal black hole, worse thing guantanamo bay in an interrogation room. we meet 19-year-old stephane, ucc or lou from suriname. he tells us he was brought to the prison when he was 14, along with more than 100 other miners have you had a lawyer ever you talked to a lot where i don't know about the big guys as we speak about the kids assume. >> well, if you know the truth, we don't know even my were always like punished as like five years in prison. i were punished we don't even know what he's done. like we've been imprisoned because of our clients at the sdf intelligence headquarters. we need british pakistani dr. mohammed socket accused of joining isis. he claims he was the victim of an elaborate kidnapping plot. it says panoramas, inmates our abused. >> so we live in torture. i live in fear when you say you live in torture, do you mean that you are actually physically being tortured? this happens on an off what kind of torture? like beating by the stick? by the gods to be honest, i'm just waiting for my death there's no getting out of this prison. >> probably never the warden at panorama called sockets claim of abuse false, saying quote, all parts of the prison are monitored by cameras and no prison guard can act in this way. the sdf and the us are pushing countries to repatriate their citizens from syria, saying it is the only solution to this complex and dangerous situation. >> but the process has been slow and many including western allies are dragging their feet in the owl rose can we meet brits, canadians, belgians, australians, and a couple of americans? survive basically 30-year-old hoda methanol has been stuck here with her seven-year-old son for more than five years. i have to ask you, i'm seeing all of the women here are fully covered. a lot of them covering your phases you're not covered, you're wearing a t-shirt is that hard it was hard when i first took it. >> i would say for the first 23 years people would not accepting of it. and they harassed us a lot. they stole our stuff and i had to stay strong and show example from my son, born and raised in the us, hoda became radicalized online at the age of 20, and left her family and alabama to live under isis a decision she quickly regretted if you were to be able to go back to the us and you had to go on trial, potentially serve time in prison. have you reconciled yourself without possibility? >> i always tell myself that i'm going to prison would be a step forward in my life if i had any time to serve, i'd server and come out and begin my life with my son for now? that is not an option while the us advocates repatriation, it ruled holders us citizenship invalid on a technicality, but i didn't write now, she lives in fear for her son's future what do you miss most about america i just want to breathe ever i can arrow and be around people. >> i loved the people of america. they're very open and they're very forgiving and they're very, they're people who gives second chances and i think if they were to sit down with me and listen to my story from the beginning, they would give me a second chance but second chances are hard to come by here for most repentance is demanded and forgiveness rarely given as the cost of ignoring this ugly crisis continues to mount. >> clarissa ward, cnn, northern syria i'm gonna statement to cnn a us state department said the department has not changed its position with regards to miss mu who found a citizen status as the state department to and determine and the courts are grade. >> she's not and never was a us citizen was sort of calm. the mystery of the north korean football star who went missing three years ago. i need to make a dramatic 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>> the more i want to hearou more about judge judges a, teacher and send picks bill from virginia juneteenth.th >> joe thought it was junee 10th, so he thre10w a party. >> aaron from mendon louisianagh . i thought biden was raised in a black churchn with that rhythm. >> he was dug it fresh, wasn't great either. >> john from louisiana you can wear a pink tie but can't drinka with a straw. >> wowtraw whi, you got me. >> that's all for tonight. dvr the show. >> hannity is up next. and always remember, i'm waters and this is world i. >> and welcome to hannity tonight, total, complete history on the lef hysteri theto left-wing conspiracy theorist rachel maddow. she is now claiming she may be put in a camp if donald she c trump is elected. aoc saying trump will throw in jail. the left is losing their minds, but we thei already knew that. they maybe never noticeonly that it's only trump people that get charged, harassed and actually put in jai te th getarged hal and s. anyway, far left back, merrick garland is calling trump's criticism of his weaponized department of justice, quote,say dangerous for people's safety. we will address us tonight later in the show. and the president of your great country, the united states of america, our great country is fear mongering about ther ne second amendment and calling for new gun restrictions jusguna on very day. his very own son iy his convicted of three felony gun charges. but tonight, don't get distracted. please, please pay very close tot i'm aboutwha to say, because if you're listening to the media and the pundits and democratic hacks, they havendits no clue about what really happened in this hunter biden. none at all. it's deep. it is profound. what has.s happened. the major story that they are not talking or tellingyou ab you about from hunter biden's trial is not the conviction on gun crimes. now, it's important. s that's low hanging fruit. the evidence in this case was overwhelminglow hang, was incontrovertible. and unlike donald trump, he had refaird venue trial judge with real charges, not onesal wered o made up that you didn't even know about. the critical development even km this trial is one huge single pie of evidence entered into the official record byr u. your government, and that's hunter biden's very reals.. not only did the u.s. federal dd government confirmop i that hunter's laptop is real, they confirmed that its contents are real and the contents have not been tamperedi with by anybody. in other words, you weren to, on a very high level just before an election by numerous people and entire institutions . you were lied to by hunter biden himself. you were lied to by his father, your president, joe biden. you were lied to bliy nbc. fake news, cnn, npr. well, let's just say prettyb th much everybody in the media mob, the list is far too long to mention l. you were lied to by america's 51 former intel so-called experts, the ones that signey d off on a letter insinuating that the laptop was most likelst all the earmarks of russian disinformation. meanwhile, notrks single one of them ever did anything to investigate that claim,f examined the contents of the laptop. t you were lied to by clapper,bren you lied to by brennanna. nt you were lied to by your own government. what do they all have in common? they all wanted joe biden to win by any means necessary. and it's worse than a rep that according to a report, john solomon, the fbori, the doj knew that the laptop was reawl since before the 2020 election. but instead of doing the right, honorable and honest thing and telling the american people the truth, the federal amer there was out t the pre bunking the laptop story with big tech executives. ding remember, in the months leading up to the 2020 election,o theeke the fbi was having weekly meetings. they were warning big tech companies they may all be victims of a foreign disinformation compani campaign about the election and that misinform asia may be aboutn an joe biden and hunter biden and gets worse. they knew rudy giuliani's attorney had a copy of hunter's very real laptop. they kne thew odds were very high that it would leak beforewo the electionul, and they knew it eould likely destroy any chanc that biden had to win the election. and then they had to actin the t the new york post broke the story. when faceboohek and asked the fe specifically id f this is what you were warning us about, was the laptop misinformation? n should they refuse to confirmo the truth, leavingco those companies free to then censor very real the very real laptopsn story. and that's what they did i mean, you couldn't even send a private message with a link to the send "new york post". big tech, the media mob,yoe gobbhappily gobbled up their fbi. doj probe. led upbiden contribution misinformation. by the way, if who was involveda bragg's district, they probably would be charged with a traffic violatiolvinstrictn. and ultimately, they use this as the basis to censor the most important information in the final weeks before the 2020ks presidential election, all because they wanted their guy to win. this is beyond ty wa egregious election interference. and frankly, iterferenf it's cr, it should be criminal. but tonight, none of these liars have an ounce of remorse. none of them have ann y regretoc for them, it was all a meansm ae to an end. they wantes tod trump out. n prt they wanted joe biden protected from scandal at all costecs. be and you better believe the contents of that laptop wereve sthat lap and are today r joe biden as well as hunter biden. forget the salacious photos of drug use in, the in theostiu firearms, the real scandaltil is surrounds the so-called biden brand. ar the bw, if you look at the lr and then other information acquired by the house waysinform and means committee, the judiciary committee,he the house oversight committee, you look at texts and emails, other fileus s, zero experience. hunter wasn't raking in cash from some of our top geopolitical foes and dictators and despots around the world becaus d die of his keen intellect. instead, the laptop appears to show that hinstead e was liky selling access to the biden brand and the big was apparently eager to participate in spite of publicly eager othe. now hunter implicates his own father numerous times in that very real laptop. remember devon archer? tony bobulinski also debunked joe's that he never once, not one time ever spoke to his son,t brother or anybody for that matter, about their foreign business dealings. ut businesaccording to testimone the house oversight committee, from thehe participated in meets with hunter's foreign partners by phone. he dined with others at cafe milano. and that's not all.al in 2017, you might recalll th the whatsapp message published by the i house ways and means committee. hunter, allegedly writing to a chinese e associate with their oil and energy conglomerate. i am sitting here with my father and i'd like to understand whyt that commitment has not been fulfilled. i will make certain betweelledne the man sitting next to me snd the every person he know and ability to hold a grudge that you will regret not followinlg my direction.i am i am sitting here waiting for the call with my father a few days later, magically, according to the committee l. $5 million wired to a bankllio account associated with hunter biden and other texts. other emails hunter allegedly talked about forking over half of his income to pops. another email talks about the big guy, 10% for him, you know,s allocating 10% as a cut in of 1 to 1 of hunter's deals. but hunter, now a convictedun liar, says he never intendedteon to cut his father in on the deal. meanwhile, accordinge deal to ae text from the laptop uncovered by the "new york post"d york ,r even paid for his dad's bills for more than a decade. g his hunter even reportedly claimed that his father was using up, wae most of the lines of credit on his wells fargo accounn hit. d and based on the contents of hunter's very real laptopon t it appears that biden was participating in his son's business bidenwas pa deals whily benefiting financially. remember the from hunter's main business partner, devon archer, who saidartner joe participatedp to 20 phone calls with hunter and his foreign business associates? oh, i thought he'd never talk business with hunter orbrothe his brother or anybody. think about thisr hink. donald trump was convicted onp 34 so-called felony charges. upcharge misdemeanors pass the statute of limitation fines for allegedly mislabeling a legal document as a legal expense. trump ordered to pay hundreds millions of dollars because of a far left new york judged on unilaterally deciding in spite of all the evidence to the contrary, that mar a lago is only worth $18 million. this, despite you have little lock lots. oh, 1/10, 1/20 the size of martn a lago. they gtso for $150 millionst and that's just dirt. and yet the no. one is above the law culte left on the left. they don't seem to care that joe biden, now the president of our countryha,b possibly selling access to the highest levels of our government, to people in china and kazakhstan and ukraine and russiax in rus. this is all evidence the fbi and garland's doj had for over four years and never, ever investigated any of it. and they knew all of it was true. this is what a weaponized and politicized department of justice looks like.o nees according to the johnson grassley senate investigation, quoteonigatio hur biden received $3.5 million fro in a wire transfer from illinois, a battalioe win of the wife of the former mayor of moscow. she was the former first lady of moscow. if the reports are true and the evidence is accurate, money went from russia to hunter to joe. r hunteone way or another. so where's the russia russia hysteria? on the left, devon archer claiming she invested over 100 million more dollars than a real estate venture. whernvested thae the frenzied e on most dnc fake news and thesht "new york times", washington post, abc, nbc, cbons. they had no problem peddling the phony russian misinformation and dirty dossier that hillary paid for to smear trump andd fo secure nt one but four pfizer warrants. where'p s their of the contents of hunter's very real laptop and the findings the senate and house committees? or is joe biden above the law? is hunter's gun convictiong a red herring? one of hunter biden's ex-business associates1 of, fox news digital that the gun trial was, quote, a distraction from the main event with their influence peddling. he continuededdlinhe , i am convincedthe en the entire justice system is just an institution of people with agendas, not anfw institution of laws. keep in mind the doj prosecutord tasked with investigating hunter david weiss w, he letimio the statute of limitations run out on the most serious allegation hes, which could have connected hunter's business to thconnectee big guy himself. sadly, the doj is not looking out for you. their primary concern seems to revolve around protecting weak democrats from scrutiny, helping to elect joe biden while waging lawfare against donald trump. and needless to say, massive reform and accountability massym is needed in washington and in the swamp. and by the way, starting in september, early voting begins in 146 days. it's election day. only you 146s can fix it. here with reaction, fox news contributor jonathan turlean tuh we got over the case. to me, the evidence was overwhelming incontrovertible. what about this real big storyhs to me, which is now we that they've known from the beginning that the laptop begias rea. >> all these people lied. the 50 t one intel agents. you know what i guess at the direction of wink and tony blinken, you know, out there, they knew nothing about the laptop. t hu they all lied. joe biden lied. hunter lied. everybody liediden. the media lied. big tech lied. they censored the story. and that helped joe in 2016. i think i'm sorry. ndin 2020. >> i think alvin bragg would r call that an fec violation. eco jonathan. >> oh, well, you know, i think that is the interesting takeaway with this strange shrug that the media gave the introduction of the laptop in the trial. the laptophas us wha establishel fbi agent as reaisl and authentc . and so the media said, okay, well, that evidence was now usede wa. he they forget all of the other files on their laptop. if the laptoon thep is authentif those files are real, then you have these detailed accounts of a multimillion dollar influence peddlingn operation run by the biden family. ruthose would also be authentic. >> but the media justt simply doesn't want to go there. >> and that's part of the problem of the what the house committees have faced. you know, when i testified ittees h, aring the biden impeachment hearing, i said that there was ample evidence theence to do an impeat inquiry. evdidn't prejudge the evidence . but at every stage,age the democrats have opposed inquiriedemos into the presidend role, the president's knowledge and a lot of these files on the laptop. and that's not likely to change after this trial. >> merrick garland is scorching trump and his allies for h attacks on the justicein department. he says it's dangerous for people's safety. wellit'sfor peopafety., first ot to protect every government official. let me be very clear. and i'veevery government said ts occasions on this show. however, criticism and of speech are very different. and the idea that his dot inj and his fbi knew aboutju the laptop being reasticl and ty have an investigator for four years, i think he's got andy investand we'll go into ml later. and i have a message for him. he's got a lot of explaining to do. just like what does he think wha a letitia james and alvin bragg running on oonn a platform to gt one man, one organization, one family? i wouln d think he might speak out against that, but he hasn't. . well well, i think that garland s an unavoidable test of principle. ey sen the three house committees sent him referrals of perjuryals by hunter biden and his uncle before congress. >> those referrals are verye re compelling. >> i don't seeferral how there'h a case to be made that those answers were anythin g than false. now, the department of justice was on aw hair trigger due to indict trump officials. the question is whether merrickn garland, as people expect, a will scuttle any prosecution for perjury. pros so this is that other shoe dropping? yes. this laptop was authenticated. yes. th. e files are real but after that, hunter biden, coter they review those those files, he testified in congress and they'rnge chart there,s the congress believes and there's a good basis for that belie f that he committed, knowing perjury. these were questions that he knew were coming and he gave false answers according to these committees. so what is merrick garland going to d wilo about it? >> it's not time to write another op ed. it's time to show that he's t going to do nothing. e anothehe's judge engoron is a merchan, is b and merrick garland is c, and i haven't been wrong yet. i hope you're right and i'm wrong. i don't think he'll lift a fingerthin. >> i think this is what thi weaponization of hope. >> you're wrong, too. yeah, me too. but i'm not. i'm just. i'd bet everything i have. no, i'm not, professor. >> you c ayou give me an f if iw all right. joining us now. thank you, professor. joining us now, fox news legal analyst gregg jarrett, harvard law professo gr alan dershowitz, just the news founder, .com asunder john solomon, editor in chief as well. john, let me start with the news. you brokl jo me e a of this new. when did the fbi know that thise was a very real laptop?bi and isn't that the big takeaway in this story, not the conviction e stor? >> um, yeah. as i reported in 2020 on your show and as the irs whistleblowers later confirmed ,the fbi corroboratedhe the laptop in its entirety by march of 2020 to 2026, eight months before the 51 so-called intelligence analystsn it russian disinformation, when they called it russian disinformationceian disi, i cale law enforcement and they told me no, we corroboratedw it so the fbi was telling people, if you're willing to make a phoneel call back in the fall of 2020 that this laptop was rea l. and it's a shame that 51 men and women signed their name to a letter knowingly trying to mislead the american people days before an election when a single phone call, they allhey d had security cardh they could have called the fbi. they chose not to. they chose to mislead not the american people in the most awful waeay. and why was the fbi, professor dershowitz, why were they meeting weekly with biga tech in the months leading up to the 2020 election? and why when twitter and facebook requested an answer as to whether or not this "new york post" story was real or what they wereg being warned about, misinformation about hunter and about joe biderned abon n, why didn't they tell them the truth that john solomon rightly reported in march of 2020 that they fully knew about? and by the way, what do you call that? well, you call it fraud. you call it exactly. d trum alvin bragg charged trump with a that is making false statements in an attempt to influenceg fa n election. look, there are only two choices. th the american constitution is going to survive, either we need a ceasefire now and say, n look, all right, there's been a conviction of a biden there's been a conviction of anvictionn. >> let's stop this weaponization. let's call off all these caseshn that are now pending all overovt the countrhey. trump people are going off to jail, stays are being denied' bannon and others. let's call that off. either f either that or. let's have absolutely equal treatment. let's go after people wholectio have committed election fraud by denyingn american publicno the right to know the truth about. wait a minute. yeah, what would that include? the 51 intel people? would that include joe biden? would that include what is it really comparable to say that joe biden, if he lied the american people about being involved in these foreign business dealse ollo and he wasd being paid by hunter and he was calling into meeting bs, hunters foreign business partners, and he leveraged the billion dollarpas burisma, so his son cn continue to get paid millions for a job in which he had no admirience at a time he admits he was addicted to drugs. tell me why that shouldn't be prosecutes ad d and how is that law fair? that seems like that sounds like equal justice. apply to him j to that doesn't sound like a made up crime, like the trump case. >> well, if you take seriously the charges that brad brought against trump, one of whic brah is that he tried to mislead the voting public by not telling them about an affair which would have had ng tho effl on the election whatsoever. if you take that to its logical, extremeec t, then you e to look to see whether anybody among the 51 people, among even the president of the united states, may have written something on a for hm that would give rise to exactly the same allegation that a fraudulent a statement was made in order to commit another crime. the other crime would be, according to bragg.d , to somehw defraud the american people to voting for somebod yy they would otherwise not vote for. you have to have a single standard you hav . let's go, greg, to the issue of the money. hunter implicates in this very real laptop, his own father. half my income goes to pops. pp 10% for the big guy. that's all in the laptop. that is very rea bl. f now, paying for pops home repairs that thahot complained bitterly about. it seems like joe not only lied to the american people but benefited from the lietion a and then also took action as vice president by leveragingl $1,000,000,000 to ukraine and loan guaranteela s. and the net result of that is son continue to get paid for rworkesul that he had no expere in. by his own admission, at a time whenhad nos ow was addicted to . >> by his own admission. >> you're right, the bidens are still getting away. sean with their most serious in crimes, corrupt foreign influence peddling thanks to the protection racket run by joe biden's doj. so it was so revolting today- do to watch david weiss take a victory lap in fronth of camerasthem this is the guy who struck this sleazy deal tor let hunter biden skate and only when it imploded was weiss whee forced kicking and screaming to prosecute it. running but he's still running interference. he charged hunter with evading taxes on tens of millions in overseass pay to play schemes, but not the enrichment schemes themselves, which are far greater crimes. >> the sellingment schves out os don't forget it was weiss who let the statute of limitations expire and manytr of those crimes, while he and the doj secretly scuttled the investigation to shield joe biden, i tell you, is not yu done yet. and t be surprised i he'f and garland conjure up another sweetheart plea deal for hunte r on the eve of the trial to avoid embarrassing evidenceo of joe's corruption coming to light right before the upcomingto election. agreed >> it'll happen, i think. and last question. some the real country with that, john, they knew about this laptop for four years and they haven't lifted a finger. liger.they knew that joe lied te country. they knew that he benefited, didn't they? >> yep. yeah. .and in 2016, they got 3.39 million documents from hunter biden, his business partners. they knew everything, including more than is on the laptop . on monday, you're going to see a whole bunch of new documents. we're going to make public bu di them in 2016. >> oh, wow. unbelievable. y thank you all. appreciate it. that's the big takeaway. big takethe media won't talk abk when we come back. talk about bad timing. earlieabout bar today, biden spr gun safety group only hourous after hunter's conviction for gun crimes. we've got the lowlights and devine pam bondi react straight ahead. four, five star backyards, yellow with brand pressure treated pine. if it doesn't have this yellow tag, you don't it to dog food in the fridge. >> it's not dog food. it's freshpet. real meat, real veggies, real real meat, real veggies, real weird. it was bad luck anyway. sleepy headaches, dry skin. you're probably dehydratedand wa liquid labs, rapid hydration. bsit's packed with all five essential electrolytes. take amazing and way less sugar sports drinks. rehydrate and feel better with liquid laughs. gab liquid labs in the walmart vitamin aisle today nail fungus is nasty up to now starts improving the appearance of fungus damaged toenails in just two days. it's clinically proven formula penetrates the nail for results you can see quickly opti nail give fungus toenails a makeover, a heart attack. >> do they have life insurance ? 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maybe an uncle buzzy moment.t th the cannibal guy. take a look. i mean, yes and no. it's hard because i've gotten those phon ae calls to saying i lost a son or daughter, a wife. i know what it's like. we'rs wee not stopping there.ncg it's time once againai to do. ie i did when i was a senator. ban assault weapons. he said, what do you mean i need that done? i said. guess what? if you need 12 to 100 bullets in a gun in a magazine, you're the lousiest shot i've ever heard. >> our traditions told the nraet convention recently he's proud that, quote, i did nothing i on guns when i was president. and by doing nothing, he mad e the situation considerably worse. >> how much you hear this phrase? the blood of liberty. wash it. don't give me a break. so, i mean, seriously. and by the way, if they want to think that is to take on government, if we get out of line, which they're talking again about, well, guess what?le they need f-150s. they don't need a rifle. >> folks, look, this is crazywht what we're talkinghe about. and president obama, then vice president biden, they did nothing to stop violence, gun violence in chicago and other big citiesgu. anyway, here with reaction to the day's news. miranda devine of the "new york post" and former florida attorney general pam formi. t >> well, the laptop from you our emma joe morris. you guys were right the whole time. the verd >> and to me, the verdict is it was the right verdict. the evidence was overwhelming. rdicelmingthe bigger story is te government introducing that laptop into evidence. and that means all the other contents in that laptop are now meaningful as it relates to the law. >> and joe and hunter biden, would you agree? absolutely. and the fact that thutely ine joe biden, the biden campaign, the cia the fbi, those 51 former intelligence officialoss went to such lengtht to lie about the laptop. big tech sense that the "new york post", when we wrote about the laptop and, the contents of it. what that shows you is that they were abso absolutely terrified about the contents of the laptop becausse knew that it would be so damaging to joe biden that it would wreck his campaign and they successfully managed to suppress the story. and as you sait theyd earlier, that amounted to election interference. and that is why none of those 51 you saw james clapper the other day, you've seen others of them, they all refused to admit that they lied, that if they were wrong, that they had zero evidence that it was russian disinformation, they knew it wasn't russian disinformation. the fbi had had the laptop-known since december 2019. it was well known within intelligence community that that information was realty . and yet, if they admit that they knew it wasn't russian disinformationw it, then they are admitting that they were part of an election interference, a coup, really, to ensure that president donald -- wp didn't win a second term. it really comes down to that, doesn't now that we know all of this, pam bondi, we also the merrick garland doj, the fbi, they've all known thiss for four years. there's a lot of othertion information damning information on that laptop. imeimplicates joe, it implicatp hunter, it implicates the brother, it implicates all these othed e other people. they've had this evidence. they haven't done a thing with thiy haven's evidence. what's your reaction to that? which to me is the much bigger story here? >> it sure is, sean.. and i'm glad i am glad they got a conviction on this, because now they caney use the gunthe t conviction in the tax charges. the only charges that aret ag currently left against hunter biden because the case is in 2014 and 2015. of course, 14 and 2 the statuteof limit of limitations had run. they let it run about dealiny gt with agents. the cases that could most likely implicate cou james biden, joe biden, the entire biden family. they those run. but now they're faced with the tax chargebut s. e if let's see what happens. let's see if there's not a plea deal. i think there probably will beaa at this point because of this conviction. but yeah, thanks to miranda, thanks to great reporting, everyone now knows that the laptopryon from, as she says,ng is real and everything on it is real, including all the >>her garland evidence that. >> could be great for prosecutors. well, what about garland? he's had this information, this damning information. they all knew that joe lied about. i never talk to my son, my brother or anybody about the foreign business deals. and what about leveraging $1,000,000,000? so a son continues to get paid. s soontinueswhat about the moneh they're getting from a former russian oligarch. what about meeting that oligarch in café milano? what about calling into all the meetings? what about the millions of dollars the family's raking n in? ponta has no experience in energy. oil, gas, coal. ukrainenergye or china. how does he make it all that money while he's addicted to drugsoney? >> that's exactly right. pnd remember, president trum asked that simple question of president zelenskyy and look what happened. o >> they tried to impeach him over it. and president trump was, ril alon right all along. yeah. merrick garland is our chief law enforcement officer in this entire country. you know, we talk about the weaponization of the fbi,an the cia, atf, now the irs. well it all starts at the top with merrick garland. he has to respond to this. he has to be held accountable. this is way too important. the american people and our justice system is at stake e . well, miranda, maybe now maybe you're book laptop from will litt bestseller agaik n, and people can now look a little more deeply now that finally the government four years later has confirmed that which have you and emma jo and others reported way back whey back wn. all right, thank you. straight ahead, merrick garland attacking republicans for daring to question the left's lawfare against trump. we're going to tell you what he said. lara trump reacts straight ahead. stay with us. >> do you have too much body fat? 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>> take a look. a look.i will never be afraid to challenge this illegitimate h president when our fundamental rights are at stake. i believe that the president of thesghts e united states can be indicted for criminal offenses. you feel embarrassed to my namen personally? >> yes. we need to focusam. ed t on donald trump and his abuses. we need to follow his mone dy. n we need to find out wherela he's laundered money. we neeundemoned to find out wher not he's engaged in conspiracy. >> it's important that everyone that the daysare of donald trump are coming to an end. >> i look forward to goingnd ine the office of attorney general every daey gy defending your rit and then going home. >> there's a platform. go after one man,d ap one organization, one family. or doeplrs merrick garland. think it was appropriate for the manhattan district attorney album brag to run on this campaign promise. >> i know a lot of peoplear are wondering, whoever has this joe wondthis jobb. are they going to convict the donald trump? >> but that is the number one issue the times calls brag s a talented prosecutor whose successful suit of the trump foundation couldnted pro b be invaluable experience for the investigation. >> he'll take over >>valu as the chief deputy attorney general in new york state. >> i oversaweputy atey some ofia the office's biggest cases from exposing illegal behavio or by the trump foundation. >> we know there's a trump investigation. i have investigated trump andint his children and held them accountable for their misconductchildren with te trump foundation. i also sued the trump administration more thanimes 100 times. we know that the d.a.ting is investigating trump.th when i was the ag's office, i sue trump over 100 times forsc his administration's misconducot and brought a case against the trump foundation that held foe. ntablgainst t >> one more question. according to a whistleblower testimony the fbi they've known since late 2019 on his laptop was real. so why? sohow has merrick garlandnd weaponized, politicized weapetment of justic investigated the contents of this very real laptop? s ofwhy was garland's fbi meetii with big tech companies warning themig that they may be targetel for misinformation campaigns and they may be about joe and hunter biden? and when askedjoe d by twitter and facebook after the new york post story broke, if the laptoph story was real, why didn't the fbi confirm what thehey knew to be true that it was real? here was reaction. rnc co-chair lara trump. a lot of questions here.tr they kneump.w it was real. all garland knew it was real. now that we all know it's realke . we know that joe lied at the highest level and joe was involved. all these foreign business deals and the millions of dollars they rake id in, including taking direct action by withholding moneyin. so a prosecutor investigating the company is seen as a business worth and millionsm mil with no experience continues to pay in millions. h noso all of that's true. laura and garland hasn't liftedo a finger. if it was your father in law. or you our eric or don, wou i'm pretty sure they'd go afterh all ofey you. >> yeah, i was going to say, just go after donald trump. when in doubt, that sort of they're their motto that they, of course, always have. >> it is reall whichy incredibl sean, to see what has gone on and the fact that you have merrick actually complaining about the american citizens voicing, their concerns for a very clearly biased justice shoulde c be concerning to him because he's the attorney generaer l of the united states. we can't live in a country if we do not trusunited se ttions our foundational institutions like this. and peopleli are terrified right now. >> everybody knows what this triay knl with biden was about. >> this is about smoke and mirrors. this is the red herrinit's abou >> this is a distraction from what you've talked about the entire show which is that it's not just criminality we're worried about with the biden. it's national security. we're concerned about we need to know as american citizens that when joe biden, as president of, the unitedt of states is making decisions for this country, he's madethey m decisions based on what's best for the american people and noat what's best for the bank account of the biden family. and by the waythe bank, sean, bd on how the last three and a half years have been going, we should really question what has been going on there. and as a family member of the trump family, it is it the whole thing is kind of wild for me to watch. if you think back, sean, to when donald trump won 6 the election in 2016, think about what our family business was. >> we were a private company that had real estate and golfe n courses around the world. >> we were in international business originally, yet w what did we do? >> we said, you know what? when he won, we're not going the to do any new international business deals. the opposite of that happened internat biden became vice vic president of the united states. that's when the bideidenn familo got into international business. we went so far ainternational so as to pay back the united states treasury every penn be u.y that we got from any foreign dignitary that spent money at a trump property. >> of course, we got no credit for that, but we didn't even want the faintest of impropriety. and yet look at the way they have gone after donald trump for literally anything they could find. for trovean peoplrep with this laptop. the american people are demand transparency. again, it's about our national security aga. want we deserve to know. but i want to tell people out there how you caon actually mak, a difference, how you can rectify this. it comes on novemberu can rect h of this year. it comes the first day of early votingfirs in your state. >> get out and vote in thisn election. this eioour country depends on . the future of america certainly depends on iict. hing we cannot allow these things to stand. we need to get to the bottom of this stand . save >> we need to save our country. but you got to get out and vote. to gei agree. ean: e and early voting, by the way, starts in septembear r. some in september, in some states. i hope people keep that in min dget ov and get over your reluctance and resistance to voting early d . i know you're working hard on legal ballot harvesting knowg hard wanully surpass democratic efforts, but if you want to change it, garland's not going to changngen he's weaponized the department of justice. it will remain that wa e theyino and probably get worse if, god forbid, he was reelected. all righrs it. >> trump thank you. when we come back, with biden's campaign flailin g, the leftto sca is once again resorting to scare tactics. anere do you hearer? 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yeah, it's crazy talk. i mean, these ladies are insane with the things that they're saying. and it proves once again are that the left will use fear to control people. they will use fearpeople, promoe their agenda. donald trump has been very clear that his onln y revenge that he will get on november 5th is america's success. shelall wants is america to be great again and to be successful. and people have more money in their pocketsn an and families to be able to affordo able their groceries and fill their cars with ga ts. he wa so he's been very clear that he just wants america to be all itat it'nts ever been on its greatest days. and for them to say that kind of stuff is sos st days. compley irresponsible that i hope that every single american getse the chance to hear them say that because they know for a fact the that not true.e sa and they're saying it just to scare them and they're saying it to controlyi them. now we have as many as eight people that might have isis ties captured at the border, tens of thousands from china, russia ured, iran, syria, egypt, afghanistan, yemen, kazakhstan . on the economy, two thirds of the middle class. fox businessds o reporting saynl of americans say they're struggling financially and financial gasping for air. add to that more than 25% of americans admit to skipping meals due to a skyrocketing grocery costs that they'reare pi paying. those are the things that americans now are caring about thatingsare ca you know, s lie and tell us everything's fine. at the end of the day, isn't going to be what america votesaa on. that's what every single american that i've talked to in the laswhat eve at i'vt 6 to 7 months. that's the only thing on their mind at the top of their min7 nd is how is my family i being impacted by joe biden's administration? they feel it every day. just got back from wisconsin, spent a couple of days there talkink from dayg a lot of folks, a lot of independents, a lot of women, and talking to differentto groups and will be in michigan as well. these are states where people are making up their mind for donald trump because they know that he makes their life better and he lets rs make decisions and have personal responsibility for d the omilies and doesn't to take more money out of their pockets. he wants to help them be more successful. so he wantso be the economy and int are still big issues in this countrily. that's what families are feeling and they recognize that the biden administration is just attacking donald trump because that's the only that the left has, is they have fear and attacks and they'll even weaponizevefea our judicial system in order to do their agenda. >> i would argue the reason the red wave didn't occur in 22 is, is abortion will americansoa . because democrats will demagogue it? will its emagoguewillt be successful? 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just for the summations now, you can't bring the president there for the whole trial because people say, well, doesn't he have better things to do than sit here for a week, but for summations for a few hours, it would not have been inappropriate to do that's interesting. >> so you think a president biden being in there would have been helpful? i'm sure that discussion was had between the biden family and abbe lowell and they decided against it. >> and i can understand there are reasons to decide against it, but if you do bring the president there, it does show respect for the system that he's there sitting as a father interested in the fate of his son, but he's not there. and you would have to acknowledge it. he's not there as the president of the united states he's there as the father of hunter biden? >> yeah. >> i mean, it is remarkable. abbe lowell going 90 minutes today with the jury was closing their eyes and some points. is that a bad sign look, it's it's not great, but you can't read too much into that. >> yeah. >> we're not us to bill, we will be waiting to see if there is verdict tomorrow. thank you for joining us tonight. thank you all so much for joining us, as well as we continue to monitor all the news here at cnn, seen a news night with abby phillip starts right now the donald trump, his rally diehards that's tonight on these good evening. i'm abby phillip in new york, another american first, the convicted former president who is now running to oversee the country. again just met with his probation officer in just moments i'll speak with abc news anchor and former clinton white house insider george steph monopolists will get some unique insights into what a second trump term may look like but first, a play-by-play of what donald trump said in las vegas let's set the scene for you. the heat spiral 200 degrees. six people were sent to the hospital two dozen others were treated at the scene call it the heat or donald trump feeling hot under the collar. but the content of this rally vero wildly into topic after topic. now, some that actually might matter to you the voter, and others that matter to donald trump. and maybe no one else. so here is an incomplete sampling of what you heard. if you happen to have stood in that rally and sweated through all of it starting with a joke about voters i don't want anybody going on me. we need every voter. i don't care about you. i just want your vote. i don't care these are the range that dumb guy is that dumb son of a he's a corrupt, very dumb person. he's a low iq individual, is just something missing and there always has been this guy just hit enter, it goes to the beach the time somebody thinks it looks good in a bathing said, i don't think so and he has that little chair that weighs about like seven ounces. it's been so children can lift it and very old people can lifted. and you know what he's not old he's incompetent. it's weak, it's in ineffective, it's both. >> what he signed they're totally destroying our black population. >> they're totally destroying are hispanic population. i pay all this money to teleprompter people and i'd say 20% of the time, they don't work. i don't pay contractors that do a job and that's a job that's a job you can't read all right what would happen if the boat sank from his weight and you're in the boat and you have this tremendously powerful battery. >> and the battery is now under the water. and there's a shark that's approximately ten yards over there by the way, a lot of shark attacks lately did notice that those j6 warriors, they were worries, but they were really more than anything else. they are victims of what happened. all they were doing is protesting a rigged election that's what they were doing. and then the police say go and go in, go in water, set-up. that was what a horrible, horrible thing. and you know, that blows two ways. if we win nevada we win the whole thing. i hope the military revolt set the voting booth and just says we're not going to take it. he should take a drug test because i'm willing to take 20 me now is george stuff annapolis, abc news anchor he is a veteran of the clinton white house, and he's also the author of a brand new book, the situation room, the inside story of presidents in crisis. george, it's great to have you on in this book it chronically on avy, it critical six decades of crisis management from the situation room a place that you know well from your time in the white house, one of the interesting things is also these interviews with officers who were in the situation room on january 6. this is at a time now when trump is actively running to be back in the white house, and fundamentally change how the government works, how the so-called deep state works. did you hear any concerns from these duty officers about what a second trump term would mean for the kind of continuity that the national security apparatus has relied on for all these years. >> absolutely i mean, duty officers and others who served in the trump administration worried that the institutions would crumble. >> i spoke with them. >> wait us situation duty officer named mike stigler, who is actually on-point on january 6, and he said people have to understand how close we came to losing the vice president at the time. >> and he was horrified by this also horrified by the fact that he and his fellow officers in the situation room that they had to start implementing the continuity of government procedures which were designed to make sure that the government survives a nuclear attack. they were put into place on that day because of the threat to our institutions on that day as one of course, president trump famously never called down the situation room even once all during january 6. and you know, you talk about it's not just how close we came to watching our institutions crumble that day the ongoing threat is real. i mean, look at what happened just saturday night in las vegas when the president, former president uk, called the january convicted felons from january 6, those who rioted on january 6 and tried to block the peaceful transfer our he called them warriors who are somehow set up by the police. he's called them hostages. he's called them patriots. he's promising to pardon them. he's not promising to divide by the results of the next election. so this, this pass thread is very real right now have you ever seen, i mean, in your research and your time in government anyone run for office, really running against the very government that they are supposed to be? >> overseeing absolutely unprecedented abbe absolutely unprecedented. >> we have never had a former president or a presidential candidate who refuses to accept the peaceful transfer of power, who refused to say but he will buy by the constitution who's been indicted. and impeached for trying to block the peaceful transfer of power that is something that is absolutely fundamental to our democracy is one of the things that's made our democracy work for over 200 years. the idea the simple fact that the former president continues to lie about the, about the last election that he did, whatever he could on that data block, the peaceful transfer of power is absolutely unprecedented in all of our history and you, on your show on this week, you've had some of these trump vp short listers on there some of the other hosts of this week have also had them on. >> i want to just play a little bit of what they've been saying on television of late i think there were problems in 2020. >> yes, i do. do i think it was a problem that big technology companies working with the intelligence services sensor, the presidential campaign of donald trump? yes governors, governor you, you have said the election should wasn't stolen and you're supporting someone who says it was well, i know that we've got certainly we've got irregularities do you get the sense that this is one of the requirements to be on that shortlist you don't get the sense it's out there is plain as day. >> i actually talked to senator jd vance who is reportedly on the shortlist. as well. and every indication he gave was that he would do the same thing that mike pence, that he would not do what mike pence did in 2000 i mean, it's certainly seems to have become a requirement for those who are running to accept president trump's lie. former president trump's lie about the last election to suggest that he did nothing wrong. now on january 6, to say that somehow that is not an important issue at this point. and to suggest that it was actually vice president pence who did the wrong thing in 2020 i mean, this is just again, this is astonishing. we've never really had a former prison isn't it run before? whose own vice president refuses to endorse him because of the actions he took on those days. >> yeah. yeah. i mean, that alone has says maybe it says it all as a journalist, when you have these potential vp, a candidates on the show, you've had them on, we've had them on the show here. they rarely, if ever for concede ground this seems to be also another litmus test for how to be in maga world. i mean, is this the new reality for this this maga era of politicians that they don't back down when they're confronted with fats perhaps it is, but i think that's, that poses a test for all of us in journalism as well. i've made it a point if they will not accept those facts, i don't go on to other issues. i'm not going to go to participate in some kind of a sham where you somehow equate the legitimacy of an election or the peaceful transfer of power with a debate over tax cuts or environmental regulation. if you can't pass that fundamental threshold of saying yes, the last election was not stolen two, i will abide by the results of the next election then i think that's all voters and viewers need to know. i don't think if you're willing to lie about something as big as that, why should anything else they want to talk about be given any credence it's such an important point. >> i mean, we've got a vice presidential debate coming up right here on cnn. i later this month as a journal phyllis does american what do you think is the most important question that needs to be answered from both candidates who won the last election yeah, very simple. yeah. and won the last election. >> let's just let's let's discuss and debate. and we'll see, i mean, luck, week. it's been asked by donald trump. he refuses to answer it correctly, but we'll see what he does when he's given that opportunity in front of 140 million people it says it's a little bit different than on a stage like that. >> yeah, i when it's an actual debate, but that's it's a real test. >> i do want to play a little bit of what the vice president kamala harris has been saying, actually, on this very point, i mean, she seems to really be taking this issue on head-on. >> donald. trump openly tried to overturn the last election and now he openly attacks the foundations of our justice system. >> cheaters don't like getting caught it's a different tone than we've seen from harb, but it also speaks to that question that you just raised if trump doesn't pass the truth test on that issue, is there room for the biden administration to even move on to some of the other stuff, maybe the bread and butter issues, maybe the economy do you think that they are? settling on this idea of a character test for donald trump on this issue. >> president president kennedy, i have to do it all, but i mean, i think that is the threshold question of this election. certainly the biden campaign is going to have to address voters concerns about the economy, voters concerns that inflation, those are important as well, but it it is fundamental, as i said, at the start part the very question of whether or not you accept election results, whether you accept the peaceful transfer of power, that is an absolutely fundamental issue that people should be confirmed runaway as they go to make their choice in november when it comes to the potential of a trump administration. >> i mean, what do you think his conduct on january 6 tells you about what he might do next? not just around the election, but just in general he's saying what he would do next. he says that every single day he says he would pardon what he calls the january 6 hostages. he's talked about retribution using his justice department as an as an arm of retribution. he's talked openly about dropping the prosecutions against themselves. that's an active obstruction of justice in and of itself. it's no secret when president trump says he wants to do something, we should take a minute as word george steph, novelist. >> thank you very much. again, george's book, the situation room is out right now next breaking news about trump's legal issues here. what happened inside of his meeting with eight probation officer ahead of his sentencing? thanks. plus one of trump's allies gets a 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no other the now convicted former president did, as other helens, do he met with a probation officer prior to sentencing, but that's where the similarities stop. at the differences get real. >> trump got to have his lawyer, todd blanche in the room, a special accommodation not afforded then to the average defendant and it's one of the few notable examples of how the legal system really bent over backwards for trump, where it would not have for others, ten contempt violations normally merit more than just a fine. >> nobel restrictions for a defendant of his means. also, an anomaly carefully choreographed search of his home to spare them from having cameras capture agents of the lawn of the law wearing fbi jackets. that's a nicety really given to no one else joining me now are robert gray who was counseled to then president trump during is first impeachment. and dante mills, he's a civil and criminal attorney and a law professor at temple this leaves school of law, dante, this probation hearing lasted about 30 minutes. we're told what kind of information are they trying to get from trump. >> let's just walk through. everybody understands the purpose of this and why they do it most times, judges don't know the defendant these trials happen. normally their day or two. the judge doesn't get to know the person they're going to have to sentence. so what you do is you have an investigating officer come in, ask questions about the person's background, get an understanding of who they are, where they come from, who their family is, what kind to jobs they have. and then they present a report to the judge who says, based on this report it's going to influence my decision one way or the other, or it won't because it's pretty standard so it happens to everybody, but we do it to a former president of the united states. everybody knows who he is already. so it's not necessary. i don't think in this case, but you have to go through the process of why why have his lawyer present? >> i mean what's the concern there are the on trump's part. i don't know so about new york state practice, but i will say in federal practice is actually typical to have a lawyer present during the pre-sentence interview. in fact, it's almost always ordered by the judge upon request of the defense. >> them from saying anything that might hurt them. >> right. particular well, not so much that but particularly in a case that goes to trial where the defendant has an appeal. i think the concern always is to not talk about the quote, unquote, instant offense, meaning the offense of conviction because you might say something there that potentially could jeopardize. and i think everything else. and so that's why the lawyer often the lawyer is there to just simply she and i've done hundreds of these essentially two let me handle the discussions as your lawyer with the probation officer about the offensive fine line between wanting your client to be forthcoming and not be obstructive against the person trying to get information, but also not crossing the line is saying, but i did this or slipping up is saying something that can be used against them, being obstructive to the person trying to get information is definitely something i would be worried about with trump. i mean, just in general that judge merchan is going to weigh who is donald trump, which everybody knows to a certain degree, but also the lack of remorse here, frankly, in this case, i mean, ultimately, how does that all come together to influence the judge's decision and sentence? >> i think the judge knows what he's going to do, but he'll get this regard. i think he's already made up his mind, but he'll get this report and he'll see what's in this report and he may use that to justify something if he wants to put trump in jail, he'll say well, trump wasn't forthcoming. look at this report. he didn't even provide this information if he wants to give them probation, he'll say, well trump was he was cooperating with this investigator. so this is a sign that he's learned his lesson and we don't need to put them in jail. i think this will be used to bolster whatever sayyed the judge wants to lean on. >> you think the judge is already setup, set his mind to some decision here you know, i honestly don't. >> i think that obviously all judges have views about a case, particularly when they've sat through a trial about what they might do in the event of a conviction at sentencing. but i do think the judges take very seriously, both in guilty plea cases as well as cases that go to trial and result in a conviction in evaluating a third parties let's review which is the probation office of the defendant's personal characteristics and history and the investigation that they conduct. they're very good at it. i have found judges don't always agree. they don't have to agree with what they're probation office recommends, but i imagine the probation office will recommend whether or not in this e felony case a sentence of imprisonment is warranted or not. >> generally, i would say that in this particular case, i don't know if we're going to find any or learn anything new about the former president trump that we don't. and the judge doesn't know are ready, so i do want to move on just briefly to what's happening down in florida with judge aileen cannon i mean, she's got a lot of emotions to deal with. she dealt with one issue today hey well, one-and-a-half let's call it that one of them was whether or not to throw out some of the counts against donald trump sheet ruled against that, but she did say that this so-called talking indictment in which the prosecutors laid out this description of trump's handling of classified map and how he talked to somebody and his camp payne about it. she basically said that was unnecessary and she struck it from the indictment what do you make of that? >> it is something that judges, federal judges increasingly, i have seen as a defense lawyer have problems with i mean, they they don't try to trim the sales of the government too often about speaking indictments but they do expect that speaking indictments, if they speak speak to facts that the government expects with some degree of certainty will be offered into evidence and received into evidence at trial. and this was a situation where i think the sense was that was excised from the indictment was problematic. the judge hasn't ruled on it yet. it may or may not. this is other similar acts evidence but not conduct that's actually he wasn't part of the charge charge and that's shouldn't really be in the diet payment ordinarily unless you're pretty certain that the judge has made a ruling. >> but to trump's handling of classified documents, which is the gate does but i'll tell you why this was put in there. >> the prosecutors who bought this case knew they were bringing a case against the former president of the united states, and they will be scrutinized all right, people are going to go through with a fine tooth comb and i believe they want it to include things that would pass the smell test for anybody reading this indictment, they threw extra facts and air. so if you just read the indictment on its face, you said, oh, they have a case. oh, they have a reason for bringing this forward. so i do think they went overboard a little bit. i understand why they did it i also don't blame the judge for saying all right. just take this part, striking it does that have any impact on the case at all? >> the indictment is welcome to things. one is the jury will be specifically instructed at the beginning of the trial during trial and at the end of the trial that the indictment itself is just a charge and it's not evidence of anything. but it is fairly often the case paste that judges will allow the indictment into the jury room. not all judges will do that but in federal cases, some judges will. and so you don't want anything in the indictment that the jury really shouldn't be in a judge is going to take a look. important thing is the jury instructions. the judge is going to tell them what the law is, what they have to base their decision on. think that will be more important than the indictment itself but she was right for cleaning up that indictment and just not having facts that may or may not come in. >> that case is a slow moving train. but here we are. robert ray, dante mills. thank you. both for being here. and next, the man who was once known as america's mayor posing for his second mug shot in less than a year, who knew giuliani biographer joins me live plus y giuliani decided to call fani willis a hoe at eight christian event alder james is cold, calculating, cynical, and needs the money not only was the cia compromise he also was compromised secrets and spies, a nuclear game. >> sunday at ten on cnn my husband and i own a growing beverage company. >> we rely on e-commerce and digital tools it's a build our business and launch new products thanks to 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insurrection in washington and now you can add yet another mug shot to the list on the left. this one is from georgia last year, and on the right, that's the new one from today in arizona, where he pleaded not guilty to charges of conspiring to overturn arizona's election, joining us now is andrew kurtzman. he is the author of giuliani the rise and tragic fall of america's mayor. that is exactly the topic of conversation today because i mean to mug shots in a year, for any rational person that would be extraordinary for the man who used to be he thought at one point he could be president of the united states, america's mayor. i'm in quite the fall. >> will anyone who was around the 80s or 90s saw a giuliani even long before he was america's mayor. he was the most famous law man in america, right? he was a crusading prosecutor. the united they southern district and manhattan, the scourge of wall street wall street crux and mafia bosses and the, the trajectory of giuliani's career is just, it's pretty extraordinary. i mean, with trump and giuliani long ago, we've lost the ability to be shocked by then, but those mug shots of giuliani or a jaw dropping, if you know who he was, someone back then who had such a reverence for the law. he saw that court system as his church someone who has now been reduced to that. it's pretty tragic. >> and on top of that, i mean alaa man, that's a perfect example of the image that he portrayed himself. and yet in this arizona case, he was literally running from the law he literally tried to escape being served i mean, that's the rudy giuliani of today would be completely unrecognizable of the giuliani of 20 years ago are 30. >> there's, there's no question about it. i mean, his fall it's not that he's had a toe just a career collapse. he said a total moral collapse as well. he is just a shadow of him self and today or tonight, i was listening to his nightly webcast and there he was railing against joe biden and hunter biden engaging and character assassination there's a certain kind of almost fanaticism to him that's caused him to do as much as as much damage as he done and also to be a shameless about it. >> and it continues, i want to play for you what he said at a christian event about the georgia district attorney fani willis then i've got to prosecutors fani the whole i'm sorry i mean, what what what is there to even say anymore about comments like that, right? i mean, it's horrible. it's horrible, and it's it's not just, you know? portable character assassination, which is kind of bint as hallmark all the way back to his prosecutorial career but it also is a complete undermining of who he wants was as someone as i was saying, who had such reverence for the law that he you're talking about a person almost became a preece when he was a young man, he saw the court system as kind of that kind of similar moral kind of adjudication area where you declared right from wrong i mean, look look at them now. i mean, it's disgraceful as with so many people in trump's world, it's almost like he gives them a permission slip to just no holds barred, no inhibitions. they get to kind of go with their most base instincts. and i think that's what we're seeing with mr. giuliani. andrew kurtzman, you very much for joining us up next, donald trump tells conservative christians that democrats are against their religion. as he supports a group that wants to outlaw abortion and ivf. my political panel, we'll discuss that next the devastating, and sudden power of tsunamis. it happened in far away lands and it's easy to think it can't happen here if one hits home ready. >> silent birth with liev schreiber sunday at night on cnn, paying down debt can feel overwhelming upstart makes it fast and easy. >> borrowers can access the fund because they need in as little as one business day checking your rate is fast with no cost to you or your credit score. join over 1.8 million customers who have turned to upstart for 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ttac at the white house. >> and this is cnn religion and politics to dinner table conversations you are supposed to avoid. >> but the mixture of those two is one that donald trump is happy to use as a cudgel to attack democrats just listen to the presumptive republican nominee arguing why voters should choose him in november we can't afford to have anyone sit on the sidelines now is the time for us to all pull together and to stand up for our values and for our freedoms. >> and you just can't vote democrat. they're against religion there, against your religion in particular, you cannot vote for democrats and you have to get out and vote what makes the comments notable are where are they happened, which was in front of extreme anti-abortion group, the danbury institute wants to outlaw all abortion, even in case of rape and incest. >> they also claimed that abortion is never necessary to save the life of a mother. the group also so opposes ivf treatments to help women get pregnant. now remember, trump and says that he doesn't want to ban all abortions. and he says that he supports ivf. but today, he told those anti-abortion activists that he'll stand by there, sayyed side-by-side with them joining me now is republican strategist joe opinion, former communications director for vice president kamala harris, jamal simmons and former press advisor to speaker john boehner, more gillespie, joe. this is probably a strategy of no one is going to pay attention to what trump is doing, but we're paying attention. why would, why would he do that? >> look, i think we have to two issues here. do you have an issue with your organization? do you have an issue with the message? i think we'll start with the message. >> i mean, i think the issue is does donald trump believed that abortion should all be illegal? this group believes or does he believe what he says? he believed the president has been quite clear that he does not want you have a federal ban, i think has been very clear on the fact that he wants you have the issue remain with the states and so either we can take him at his word or you don't. >> it's quite clear that people want you tie him and tebor him to the organization. and all of their beliefs. it is quite clear that we are in the business of coalition building here in american politics. if you have an issue with the coalition, you can bring that up on the campaign trail, but it is interesting to me that we never asked democrats you disavow any of their supporters. we never asked democrats to affectively find the most extreme elements of their party and then answer questions about them. this only happens with people on the political right. and so i think that, that look, i think i don't think that's true. i think that's what comes up all the time. democrats are always asked, they are i say disavow, i didn't blanche. there's a difference between asking whether you agree with the issues and then saying, what do you have to disavow the group? i think again, the broader issue here is is the democratic party, a party that is hospitable to the beliefs of christians. i think there's plenty of polling that shows that there has been an erosion of faith in america. but there is a greater arose in the democratic party. and many of the policies that they're advocating for them up to democrats. this is a place where you guys are completely off base because the democratic party is fueled by african americans, particularly african american women who are the backbone of large christian churches all over america and so if we take a look at where the democratic party stands and the teachings at some i'm a child of a minister. and as the teachings of jesus feeding the hungry clothing, the naked, taking care of those who are, who are needed and dispossessed that is quite right in the middle of the home plate of the democratic party platform. so i think that make the argument is an argument that is being made on behalf of a various particular subset of christianity that in historical terms, has not been on the side of african-americans at all because that part of the christianity has been on the side in the old days, slavery segregation i mean, he remembers very different. we want to have an ala carte conversation about religion short democrats like you pick and choose when they want to go down to the black church, like kathy hochul and get their anointing and say that i am not here to be the mother of all 62 counties that she's going to be a were all her apostles. there is a real serious conversation. democratic party, where if barack obama goes to boston it says that we have some people worshiping god and the blue states and awesome gotten the blue states. but when eric adams goes and says that i believe that god's plan for my life has led me to becoming mayor. he gets mocked. he gets mocked by the media. he gets mapped over there when we have all of those arrays. also, i just i don't want to lose this in the conversation. it's important though it is donald trump describing, first of all, your religion, i thought that he described himself as christian, but then to say that it is against your religion, christianity to vote for democrats, that seems like crossing a line. >> but i also think, what just happened here too is you're saying you guys down trump is saying all democrats, your blanket statements. that's what's frustrating i think to there can people as these blanket statements assuming that all democrats think like that all republicans think like, and that's an accurate. and so donald trump did here is interesting because he's pandering to christian conservatives, but yet his lifestyle, we know violet plates most, if not all, the commandments that he, you know, that the christians abide by but that's all trump. that doesn't speak for all republicans, not all republicans believed to ban abortion. and not all republicans want to attack women. just like i don't think all democrats are pro palestine and not all pro-hamas. i don't blanket statement that because i think that's a frustration in politics. political perspective. i mean, you talked about the big tent. i i think that's that's one way of looking at it. but from a political perspective, donald trump trying to argue he understands abortions of political problem for republicans. he's trying to argue, he's not the extremist president. he's not going to have a national ban, but then to go before an organization that is even to the right of the right on this issue, it does that really undercut his message giving democrats an opportunity? >> it does get their request an opportunity, not just because he's talking to this group i mean, he he made i think he's being extreme, but all the extremists think that he's extreme enough for them, right? he is the president who took credit for pregnant three supreme court justice on the court, who got rid of row, who helped the end roe v wade protections for abortion. he wants credit from groups like this about getting rid of abortion in the country. and if he's going to take credit, that means he also has take the blame from 60 5% of the country who has decided that we are four abortion rights. they are for women having the freedom to exercise control over their own bodies. and if he's going to take the credit, he also has to take well, i would agree that there are individuals who will be offended by the choice of the venue. and so if democrats want to raise that as an issue that is fair game in politics, but that does not deal with the fact that again, we're not having this conversation to your point when we're talking about people on the brooklyn bridge yelling from the river to the sea. palestine will be free, which is a call for the eradication of us people. we don't have these same, i think would disagree with you i don't wanna i don't want to belabor that point, but definitely i don't i do not think that is an issue that the democratic party has to own, right? >> it's becomes those are those democrats that is not indicative of who we are as a party. i think it is disingenuous to sit here and pretend that we don't have a senate majority leader for this nation that has gone and undermined benjamin netanyahu. it is disingenuous to say that we don't have a president than on one day said you're going to support israel on the other, de said is going to get rid of funny, i click, i get this is a completely separate issue, but my point is that if we're going to have people own a particular faction of their base and which do what across the board. and we're here having this conversation about abortion because it is clearly an issue the democrats think they can run on. and the only issues they can run on its abortion on monday, abortion on tuesday, january 6, on wednesday, and nothing else. >> abortion on monday and abortion on tuesday worked pretty well for them particularly in 2022. so more, how do you see this? >> republicans are going to struggle as we have on this issue of women's rights. >> when we talk about abortion, we fail to talk about the resources that aren't available to women who are now in these states that are being told they can't do ivf, which i'm sorry if you want women to have more children, ivf is a wonderful opportunity to do that. >> so you're banning things like that. and you're not giving them the resources, then to have children to support women going to those appointments. having children is expensive. childcare is expensive. we don't do anything about that conversation. we stop and i think that two things can be true at once. you can believe in the sanctity of life, but you can also believe in medical freedom for half the population of the places in this country where it's the most difficult to have an abortion. it's also the most difficult to raise a child. it's a good point more, joe and jamal. thank you all very much for that conversation up next for us, the olympic rings, they're officially unveiled in 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the team. you'll see that someone is notably missing yes. caitlin clark was omitted from the list and social media didn't take kindly to that. so should she be on the squad joining me now to unpack all of this is cnn contributor bob costas christine brennan, our friend on the show here and usa today and broke or so unless she broke this big story she won't be on the team. is it a snub or is this just the way ago? well, there are no rookies on the team. >> they're all veterans. if you wanted to make a case, you could say diana taurasi, who is an all-time wnba great. been in the league since 2004 for two decades, 41-years-old has five olympic gold medals already you could say you could put caitlin clark on in place of how you could make that case, but caitlin clark, other people would make that caitlin clark herself says, i get this 100%. >> i'm young, i can work toward the next olympics and an olympics after that caitlin clark has faced some resentment for a variety of reasons. >> people, according to whatever narrative they want, want to attribute everything to one thing, whatever it is. but as we discussed last week with carrie champion, it's a combination of things, but say anything you want about caitlin clark. she in addition, they should understand this high tide of caitlin clark is raising all boats as you just pointed out, in addition to that, she has done everything the right way. she said i don't know what an apology from kennedy carter is just the way the game is. and then she praised carter's play. she says the game is rough. i've got to adapt to that. she signs every but a graph. she doesn't whine and complain. she didn't complain about being left off the olympic team. some of this, and it's just not just a white, white thing, but maybe she is in terms of attention now that but many white stars in the league over the last quarter century, maybe there's some similarity between her and larry bird when larry bird came into the nba, there was some skepticism all he was fine in college is a white guy, can't be that good. it turned out he was one of the all-time greatest players, one of the ten greatest players conservatively in the whole history of the league when dennis rodman, who's always been a little crazy, said, if larry bird was a black guy, just be an average player, everyone was up in arms, right? here's what larry said. i don't care. let's just play he defused the whole thing. he warned everybody over by just being about basketball and caitlin clark, i think has been not just a really good and exciting player. she's been a classy person to this point and good for her. yeah. actually, let's play what caitlin said about being left off the team honestly, notice appointment like i think it just gives you something something to work for. you know, that's a dream, you know, hopefully one day i can be there and think it's just a little more motivation you remember that and, you know, hopefully in four years when four years comes back around, i can be there and honestly likely she will. >> i mean, just so people understand bob me what you were just talking about. this is what the olympic team looks like in terms of their accolades. i mean, you've got wnba champions, you've got all stars because you've got olympic gold medalists, you've got people who have basically been at the highest levels playing at slav a for a long time already. seems that she understands that she understands that. >> and what coaches and players around the wnba have to understand. i think most of them likely do yeah, i understand the resentment they'd been there a long time. there are many good players. she's getting a disproportionate amount of the attention, but none of that is her fault. some of the resentment toward her has a racial element in it. we'd be naive to deny that, but some people want to make that the entire narrative as we discussed last week with carrie champion, some of this is is carrier said as stacy dales of espn, who played in league happens to be white, she has said, hey, we've been around a long time notice, not just our excellence, but it's a physical game. now, we have to make distinctions. what kennedy carter did against caitlin clark is outside the bounds. it should have been a flagrant foul i'll they upgraded it to that last week. i made the point that when alyssa thomas through angel reese to the floor, that was involved two black players had it been caitlin clark and alyssa thomas and thrown her to the floor? everyone would have made that a racial incident and only a racial incident i did a bad job, however, on context because that was immediately called a flagrant two. and alyssa thomas was ejected, plus it was on a small cable outlet and not viewed as widely as kate, right like kennedy carter, caitlin clark thing was out of bounds and it's pretty clear that for whatever reasons kennedy carter harbored some resentment toward caitlin clark, whatever the cause. >> i mean, one of the things is that all these kind of new fans right to the gay are coming in and everybody wants to be a sports analyst of the wnba and they've just now started watching and they're not even watching all the games, apparently. right. and when people say in a simple-minded way, oh, she's a white star. there have been many, many white stars over the years past and present. there's breanna stewart now, there was rebecca lobo sue bird, sabrina ionesco, who almost batch steph curry in a three-point shooting contest this past february at the starting name, what is it about caitlin clark? it's not just that she's white. steph curry stood out from other great black stars in the nba because he played in a way that was appealing and relatable. shooting from the logo, dr. jay was more appealing and brought in more fans and his teammate moses malone, who was a three-time mvp because dr. jay's game was more flamboyant. michael jordan wasn't just great. he was fun to watch caitlin clark is fun to watch. >> yeah. and she is going to be a star pretty much no matter what do you think she'll ultimately be an alternate for the olympic team? >> i think he could be. i think that's possible. and the concern that because she'd be reserve and she wouldn't play that many minutes and therefore, her fans would be up in arms just put the point out there, educate them it would help the

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