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of what the criminal trial to look like. >> do you think he has a case to move this to federal court and how quickly could this all be resolved? >> he definitely has a case. some would say a very good case. it is an exceedingly low bar to get a -- if you're a federal official to have that matter moved to federal court. the interesting thing to me is proving that he has a colorable federal offense is one part of the standard to get it removed. but using that defense if federal court, that is where he might find bigger trouble to prove that he was acting under some federal law or interpretation of the koo constitution to achieve that objective rather than pursuing some corrupt self-benefit or benefit to his boss. >> and if he succeeds, trump will try to do the same. but will it be a slam dunk that trump's case will be moved to federal court if meadows succeeds? >> not at all. they are very different in terms of how the court wouldee valute

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department. >> it is a risky strategy. and you saw biden. there is bad blood between biden and trump. the white house is looking his chops at prospect of a re-election. any question about biden's energy level changed and shifts the moment that donald trump is invoked and you saw some of that on camera when he answered that question. secondly, yeah, what they're doing is allowing the voters to make their own decisions. voters is hyperaware of the chaos on the other side of the legal jeopardy and all of the challenges he's embroiled in as well and so they're hoping that voters will make the informed decision, biden is a creature of the senate and he governs and keeps his head down and he hopes to get credit for those things and that is where the white house is falling short off. but allow the voters to make their own contrast decision. >> there is always a risk. you don't say anything and someone filled up the vacuum by contending these are political prosecutions and then there is

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bully or get past the bully, you have to confront the person in front of you before you could talk about pivoting to joe biden. >> and they are not doing that. and this came up in the debate last week when it was put to ron desantis about the -- all of the candidates about the trump indictments and desantis wanted to move on. >> is this what we're going to be focussing on going forward? the rehashing of it. the democrats would love that and they will win if we let them. >> governor desantis, we spend an hour talking about policy and former president trump is beating you by 30, 40 points in many polls so it is a factor in the gop primary. >> do you think the dooepesanti campaign is handling this correctly. >> it is clear what he was trying to do in the debate. and move past the question. but that is the fundamental question of the primary and they clearly don't wan to deal with it. so until someone comes up with a way to go at trump, they all attacked vivek ramaswamy as a

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i did nothing wrong. >> donald trump's fourth indictment gives supporters an opponents an image to rally behind. >> they will remember this as much as they remember his presidential portrait. plus, rebuking ramaswamy. >> i've had enough of a guy who sounds like chatgpt. >> you have no foreign policy experience and it shows. >> and you know what -- >> it shows. >> how the 38-year-old political newcomer ended up at the center of the first gop debate. and biden's re-election challenge. considering the left he's on their side. what is his plan to do it? good morning and welcome to "inside politics sunday," i'm manu raju. the nation is waking up to another horrific shooting. three black americans killed at a dollar general store in jacksonville, florida. authorities say the gunman who also is dead left behind a

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racist manifesto. we'll have more on this and the political reaction later in the program. but first donald trump has taken countless photos during his 40 plus years of celebrity real estate mogul and television personality and politician and last week he added to that total this time as a criminal defendant. here it is. an image you've likely already seen. one that we're sure to see plenty of as the 2024 campaign pushes ahead, especially probably most specifically from his own campaign. because within hours of trump '24 website it had mug shot. you could stick it on the back of a car and of course you could sip your morning coffee from a trump mug shot mug. now the trump campaign said it has raised more than $7 million since thursday night. as for trump himself, he spent 20 minutes at the fulton county jail on thursday being booked

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up for, to rethink what the party stands for, to cleave the party and say it is better to lose a general election and re-set the party than to sign on for another four years of this. if that is your goal, it makes sense to do exactly what they're doing. >> will the republican -- the people that will decide that nominee, are they going to -- >> it is just so fascinating to see the old guard versus the new guard within the republican party. mike pence for instance pushing a lot of the issues. more support for ukraine. that is something that is supported among the base, just such a fundamental philosophical divide and so much to play out in the months ahead. ahead, trump's fourth disciple was in the books. but will any of the trials kick off before republicans decide on a nominee?

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the favorability improved and others improved a bit as well. as we mentioned ramaswamy and doug burgum and others and donald trump went down about five points here. but could this turn things around for nikki haley? >> it is hard to see this debate having that much impact when the front-runner who has half of the republican electorate sewn up isn't even on the stage. she had a good night. mike pence had a good night. they said what they wanted to say. and i would put nikki haley in that category. but, again, they're all punching up at a guy very few people have heard of before and this is the person who sees this his fight for relevance in this primary is to co-opt trumpism and the race and other things and to exalt trump and say i will do trump better just in a younger more diverse personification of that. that is a tractive to people. some people are criticizing him

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>> he could have smiled. he could have looked benign and instead he looked like a thug. and i think it is in tended to be a sign of intimidation against the prosecutors and judges. >> clearly a trump campaign trying to capitalize on this. does it have an impact on the race. >> when your slogan for surrendering is never surrender, it encapsulated the theme of the last week has been all about. i mean, look, right now we know that donald trump has such a commanding lead in that gop field that none of the candidates could figure out quite how to handle a debate stage and no one has figured out how to break through or crack it. i don't think we will know how much impact this will have three months from now, six months from now as the case proceeds. at this moment, i think the mug shot sort of thought process on the trump campaign side was more about him not looking weak or afraid. i really see it -- yes, it is a fundraising move and it is successful fundraising move, but

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no pushback on the other side that makes it a harder political argument in some ways. there was a tweet that biden put out last week in the aftermath of trump's arrest saying that nothing -- i think today is a great day to give to my campaign. what do you make of that? >> it is sort of -- it is one of the war shack tests, you could read into it what you want to. it is the day after debate or is he saying trump is about to get the perp walk. i think it is both good politics and good governance to stay away from politicizing and getting involved in what the justice department is doing. but on the other hand, joe biden is a candidate for re-election. he's not taking a month's oath never to invoke politics and this is the line that he's strad straddling right now. as trump becomes the nominee, there is going to come a time

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