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Being running for local officers people that are now republican attorney general on the board of the rock group which is a republican attorney general. marching to the tune of stolen election, things like that. the way thats been canonical is really unnerving to me. >> its not just unnerving in the way that is become canonical its unnerving that people who are seen as rising stars in the party are fully bought into this. right? especially, i think were going to talk about this earlier, especiall...

Instruction of the document. thats going to be the key. >> im gonna follow up on that and go back to, andrea. weve seen a decline in white collar criminal prosecutions overtime. thats been documented empirically. its a fact of the way the system works. i think thats true for both the federal and local prosecutions, but theres also an inherent difficulty in some cases around intent, right? oh i underpaid my taxes by $15,000 this year. i screwed up, my bad. heres a check for 15,000 plus interest. ...

Personal tax returns. that was after a long drawn out legal battle that went all the way up to the supreme court. just last week, we learned that letitia james joined forces with cy vance and his team and her offices probe of the trump organization into a criminal investigation. so that teaming up, weve got news of last week also sort of unexpected and somewhat rare as far as we can tell. all that comes amid news that trumps former white house counsel has now agreed to testify behind closed door...

That attorney general james has joined this investigation or is working with tsai vance and she cant she campaigned on this notion that shes after trump which in itself can undermine the legitimacy of this investigation so you have to make sure that you are able to prove this case in a way thats just bulletproof and so i dont know, and we dont know what happens at the end of this and maybe it does and in a report. thats unusual but it could happen. i think that for at this phase prosecutors can ...

Some of the concerns about whether or not this was a movement or just a moment. i think were still debating that. >> there were such -- it did seem, in the wake of floyds death in the street mobilization around it, there were really new horizons being opened up. conversations about reimagine public safety. abolition of the current version of the criminal justice system. you know, a reckoning with americas history in a sort of really really, like, true deep way. where have those projects gone, do...

Scope of this might be. i guess, if you know the answer to that question? do you have a sense of the parameters? >> i mean, i dont think we know exactly how broad the scope is but we do know based on whats been reported thus far and what has been made public in certain court proceedings that the scope is quite large. it began with the hush money payments to the two women who claimed to have affairs with trump. the payments that were made during the 2016 campaign and its now looking into his comp...

Evidence about the grand jury and those are two different phases and thats important. because you have grand juries to investigate tons of things and many of those and in nothing. if you go to the phase where youre actually presenting evidence before the grand juries and prosecutors have an obligation and the ethical obligation is to have at least probable cause that a crime has been committed but silences office has actually put itself forward as an office that believes that prosecutors should ...

Has been underway for more than two years. of course, since trump was president. its one of three active criminal probes that hes facing, right? along with georgia fulton countys inquiry to trumps efforts to subvert the election, and the washington d.c. attorney generals investigation to trumps incitement of the january 6th insurrection. the twice impeached ex president is also facing another ten civil suits ranging from defamation to fraud to incitement. one of the impeachment matters trying to...

>> so on that latter part, right, its not definitive that the result of such an empaneling of grand jury results and a request for incitement or an indictment return, right? those are two distinct things that the district attorney would request on and the grandeur it would have to agree to return the indictment. but with my general sense is, is that in most cases as a just numerical fact about how this normally operates, that is what these tend to produce in the end. >> i would say thats general...

The full confidence of the house and senate democratic caucuses and that were gonna be in a position to strike a blow against injustice and systemic racism and police violence in a meaningful way. hopefully sometime soon. >> when your own constituents in the district you represent in the city of new york come to you and they say, whats better now a year after those protests? people are out in the streets and politicians were heeding the call and various jurisdictions were talking about different...