i just don't think these are really breaking through. in the morning i thought, wow, this guy has the goods. he has it on quid pro quo. he started answering questions. no quid pro quo at all with the military aid. in fact, trump never mentioned "security assistance." i don't want anything from ukraine. the only quid pro quo he assumed it was they wanted a white house meeting in exchange for an announcement of an investigation. not even an investigation. an announcement. p.r. for p.r. what that is about as this, it's a corrupt country, trump doesn't trust it because they colluded with the democrats. a new president, they are supposed to throw all this money in there without checking to see if this guy is legit? send us a signal, zelensky, if you take corruption seriously. we are looking for a signal. we have a signal? the money got out anyway, doesn't even matter at this point. >> katie: after saying the president didn't instruct me to do some kind of quid pro quo on the aide for investigations.
that maybe says more about the rest of the adviser. >> also had bipartisan support. >> but he built it. >> might benefit from it someday. >> i do think it's my extrapolating and tim can support this, trump doesn't trust many people. he certainly did not come to washington with many inroads into republican establishment. when you come to the city where you need to staff federal beaurocracy of huge epic proportions and have to tackle all these monumental tasks, immigration reform, immigration, middle east peace, reorganizing government, they are handed to jared, a guy he trusts. >> even in his business they never had outsiders in. talked about it on the show. trump organization was 30, 40 people in a dusty office. don jr., eric, michael jackson cohen. he couldn't trust or delegate in a small real estate licensing firm. so do you think when he gets to foreign territory -- >> which is why he has a weak
administration. every politician that's in a bad news cycle tries to change the subject. this is unique, though. i don't have a case where the president used national security and used kind of the underlying problematic issue for whether he's putting russia's interest ahead of our national security as a way to change the subject. it's a common practice and not that effective in my mind. >> hold on. let's talk about the practical reality of this. president trump doesn't trust the intel community. he made that abundantly clear. we've known that. he showed in helsinki he trusts the word of vladimir putin who strongly denied any interference over his own intel community. so, revoking the clearance of the previous intel chiefs who he feels that he's at war with, he wasn't going to them for advice
macron has shown the ability to channel populist anger in a constructive direction. >> easier sell because the iran deal you have partners. so if they don't get out the deal stays in place. syria i think will be tougher for macron. macron believes in presence on the ground. citizen trump and campaigner trump had no interest on that. he wanted us out. he criticized presidents for having any access in that area. what do you think the chances the french president says keep your guys there? >> i think it is unlikely the president will change his position on syria. you have to weigh the alternatives. we certainly the idea of giving iran more influence in the region can't appeal. he opposed u.s. involvement in the middle east and troops on the ground. the tricky thing is if we pull
out of the deal we brokered what message does that send about the durability of american agreements on the world stage? that is a question of american leadership and has real implications. >> you just opposed all of that, all of the international implications happening at the same time that the president is feeling under the cloud of the russia investigation because he is tweeting about james comey. james comey has been on the book tour and then memos came out. here is what the president tweeted. james comey illegally leaked classified documents to the press to generate a special counsel therefore special counsel based on an illegal act. does anybody know what that means? and i know that you have reporting that he wants his allies on capitol hill to talk more about this. >> this is one of the talking
staffers of his own. this is where comparisons with past presidents is helpful. we have had past presidents under investigation. bill clinton in the late 1990s as an example. presidents compartmentalize that. they have to be more focussed on the country, on governing so try not to let these things spill out into public and let alone dominate their discourse. kate middleton has given birth to a baby boy. very exciting. >> and his name donald john. >> that's just not true. >> that's not true. >> we don't know for sure. >> we'll get to that later in a different segment. >> a little bit of dove tailing here in terms of what we see with the tweets and preoccupation and with the diplomacy. president trump doesn't trust who is around him. he doesn't take counsel about what is true and not true.
build our democracy. this is a case about preserving our democracy. >> we can talk differently about the sufficiency of the case but it plays like a political tactic. that is why you have some in your own fold coming out against it. david axelrod he says this is a distraction. you saw in his tweet the side shows, comey's rollout of his book. ill timed and the strategy an essential probe is partisan vendetta. >> fair point? >> it's not. when the water gate lawsuit was brought by larry o'brien. you look at what john mitchell and other folks said. it has a similar area of what the trump folks were saying. i have great respect for david axelrod and others. we can walk and chew gum. people want good jobs. they want good education. they want to make sure they have
Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20180423:12:02:00 vimarsana.com - get the latest breaking news, showbiz & celebrity photos, sport news & rumours, viral videos and top stories from vimarsana.com Daily Mail and Mail on Sunday newspapers.
company. you have seen mergers like this before. how do you think the case is going? >> you were just talking about clinton in her seech saying that president trump wants to block the sale of cnn to at&t. that has been a subplot of this case for the past several months. it's mostly unspoken in court. it is spoken about outside court and clinton bringing up another reminder that many people especially liberals but a lot of conservatives wonder if president trump is somehow trying to manipulate the case and somehow has caused this to go to trial in the first place by directing the doj to do so. there is a lot of speculation about that. i think as we head into the final stages of the trial and has to make a decision that is the cloud that hangs over this case as much as it is about market place competition and
>> the president fired comey. that is what triggered this. let me ask you a political procedure question. does jim jordan want to throw on a jacket and go for speaker of the house or no? >> paul is the speaker. he said he will stay there for the rest of this congress which i think is a good thing. then i have been encouraged by colleagues to look at that. i will seriously do that, but i think more important than who the speaker is next year is what republicans do this year. if we don't get focussed on what we told the american people we were going to do there may not be a race for speaker. let's get focussed on what we are supposed to do. >> nobody wants to do anything ambitious between now and the mid terms. biggest deficits we have seen in a long time. >> and the process was terrible. we have 15 hours to look at a