allowing this chaos to continue. that doesn t seem to have changed any minds. in fact, lauren boebert, who has been down to mar-a-lago and is a creation of trump world in many regards dissed him, saying he has it wrong. that s right. there s an element of a fear factor that s not present right now. it s worth recalling that this energy, this house freedom caucus energy, grows out of the tea party, which pre-dates donald trump. donald trump seized on it and capitalized on it and fuelled it and benefitted from it and found common cause with these folks. he didn t create this kind of energy in the house. i think that he believes he did. i think he believes these are people who like him and will do whatever he wants. they re not seeing it that way right now. if anything, mccarthy lost one vote after trump reissued his support this morning. if mccarthy ends up getting a deal and becomes the speaker,
trump will claim credit. he will say he was there all along. if mccarthy loses support, trump will support whoever looks like will be the winner, because that s how trump behaves. he goes where he sees the wind blowing. this says more about mccarthy than trump what s happening in the house right now. it s not a good sign for trump. appears weak. he didn t have to. he jumped into this. he appears just isolated in a beach resort, golf club in mar-a-lago. he is not part of this at all. no. he is part of it to the extent he has been making calls. my colleagues and i reported a couple of weeks ago that he was making whip calls on mccarthy s behalf. lauren boebert said she got a call. he was surprised that he was finding that he wasn t actually getting anywhere with folks. initially, he wasn t doing that hard a sell. he got there and did do a stronger push on mccarthy s behalf. he has been running some a campaign that s looked nothing
0 i don t think voting tonight is productive. let people work more. reporter: in a positive sign from mccarthy, some of the opponents came out sounding positive, including scott perry of pennsylvania sounded that he said talks had been productive as well as congressman chip roy. they had been asking for more sway over the speakership. some of them had asking to encourage mccarthy s super pac to stay out of certain primaries. they did agree to do that. that may have won some. his path, very narrow. there are at least four republicans who are almost certainly going to vote against him. they absolutely will not vote for kevin mccarthy, including matt gaetz. he can only look forward to lose four republican votes. one more says they will not vote for him, mccarthy cannot get there, which is why these talks are so critical, expected to continue through tonight until tomorrow. the house reconvenes at that time. he had given up a lot to get the votes he has gotten thus far. how much mo