days before the fbi raid. there's substantial reason to believe these two attorneys were continuing to communicate with one another well into this year about my client, the settlement, the negotiation and documents relating this to this payment. >> so, the president now. his lawyers have gotten involved. they have notified the court he is going to make himself available as needed to aid on his behalf. so he's saying he's fwing to be giving his time to k loob at these documents if needed. your reaction to that? >> well, i mean, i think it's bad for the country that the president is going to be devoted to this task. but from a personal level for the president, it's probably i can think of no grgreater prior he should have in this this case than and i've been consistent in what i've said for weeks now. i think this is going to result in the president not serving out his term. whether by impeachment or resignation.
president trump's pick firing back. jackson denying he wrecked a government car, vowing he will not drop out. >> i have not wrecked a r car. >> will you move forward, sir? >> thanks. >> still moving ahead. thank you. >> still moving ahead? >> did you tell the president that, sir? >> "outfront" now, anthony scaramucci. this is a mess. >> part what part? >> the whole jackson situation. how do you think it's been handled? >> i'm not there, but i love him. he's an impeccable guy. you probably read president obama's report about him. the trump family, the first lady and the president love him. i got to know him a little bit. i was only there for 11 daysing, but i got to know him and have an enormous amount of respect for him. i think there's a bigger problem here if you don't mind me saying it. we are digging super deep into
he has shown an impeccable record. until there's actual evidence, senator tester has issued two pages of anonymous accusations against -- >> gop say this is credible. 23 people wto come forward. sfl what is also crede bable is president obama and president trump. also the assessments from numerous audits. there's an issue recording prescription drug dispensation by the white house medicial uni. there have been internal and external audits by the walter reed medical center that have shown that the white house medical unit dispenses prescription drugs according to medical policy. so there's a lot of evidence. >> so do you know enough on that point, i just want to interrupt because the allegations are now specifically about percocet, which is an opioid, something everyone in this country is
you would or not read into an implication of guilt. >> the better course is not to. people take the fifth. >> john is shaking his head. >> as a human. >> as a human, yes. >> all right. thank you all very much. i appreciate it. next. more on the break iing new, michael cohen pleading the fifth. michael avenatti joins me next and the other breaking story this hour. alarming allegations of the president's pick to lead veterans fairs, wrecking a government car while drunk. giving out an opioid. what is happening? trump's former communications director is is next. turn up your swagger game with one a day men's.
ago, the president was asked about his involvement of the payment to my client and the agreement negotiated. he referred the reporter who asked the question to michael cohen. >> his lawyer. >> and specifically stated you're going to have to ask michael cohen. now we learn that michael cohen's unwilling. he's refusing to answer questions. about the agreement. this is the first time in our nation's history that we have a sitting p president's personal attorney pleading the fifth amendment. i do not think the magnitude of this can be overstated. gl you know, obviously, we heard the president a few moments ago getting his point of view on people who take the fifth. >> here's what i'll say. in connection with a civil
>> time is too value bable. . >> i'm going the cut a break here. we don't want to be coming back a year from are now and this isn't isn't done. >> is it a delay tactic or is it the president's worried about what's in them or wants to see them? do we know which? >> almost definitely the president is worried about what's in them. you can bet your bottom doll r l on that one. if the president finds out he was taped, again, this group before they became the administration, if the new trump administration, what they used to do in business was tape everyone and what if cohen has taped the president and the tape and the president finds out he is taped and there's incriminating evidence on something. there within lies the problem in
identified are not there, but i'm sure there's others. >> so -- >> you know there's leaking. >> there's always leaking. that's a way the world works. >> it's unfair. there's a certain type of leakinging that's totally appropriate. policy leaking, personal floaters, but this sort of stuff where someone's leaking this information on a private conversation that the president is having with his chief of staff is unfair to the president and it's unfair to the chief of staff. even if it's making the chief and certainly it is really bad if it is making him look bad. >> are you talking to the president now? >> this is the nonsense in the white house. >> are you talking to the president now? are you talking to him about ronny jackson. >> the last time i talked to him, was maybe ten-days ago. i am not one of the guys who
so they're not prosecuted, i think it's disgraceful. >> april -- >> yes. >> made it clear how he feels about it. >> it's stunning. when it fits his situation, you don't hear a tweet, anything from sarah huckabee sanders, anything from raj, from anyone. but you know, it's amazing how it can get you caught up and get you in trouble for a situation that basically mirrors what you were talk iing about. this president is very concerned about this situation. and that's system some of the reasons, too, he's very close to wanting to find out what is actually in, what they've seized in that raid. the president wants to find out. he wants him to take the fifth because the president himself could wind up being implicated in this. so the best thipg for him to do is keep his mouth shutten and
when we are parepare to announc it, we're going to announce it. >> first of all, you may never choose to do so. but you're not close to announcing. >> i actually think we are a lot closer today than we've been at any stage in the process, but we are certainly not prepared to state that right now. >> all right. michael, thank you very much. i appreciate your time. and tonight on cnn, don't miss a special live town hall with james comey at the top of the hour. 8:00. anderson there. james comey there. you see the crowd gathered. next, president trump meeting with ronny jackson in the west wing today for an hour. as aides are preparing for jackson to withdraw. a man who worked in the west wing is my guest next. plus this. >> like a departure. >> sean spicer. back repping the trumps. or is he? feel the clarity of
flipped on and you get asked about a hypothetical. and once i answered that hypothetical, i said he would not flip. and the reason is because i think michael is of good character and he is close to the president and a loyal guy. no reason to flip. i don't think he has done anything wrong. i pray for his family. in the neighborhood i grew up in, we run towards our friends when they are in trouble. we don't run away from. and you know what, god forbid it happened to one of your brothers or sisters, you don't know what happens in life. i have seen drug overdoses and gang fights. i know the difficulty of this stuff. >> before we go, president trump and kanye tweeting each other