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Special election in this case as an organizing opportunity. i think thats actually what youre going to see. youre going to see it used as a spring board to go to the next election. maybe you close that margin and it is a lot closer than before. showing there is, obviously, change going on in washington and people are not totally co-signed with donald trump. i would go back to the original premise of this segment. i dont think -- donald trump wasnt on the ballot in 2018 but his initiative was on ...

Far. >> i think that midwest path is probably. >> there is another path that is involved. >> so lets talk about the southeast path, right? i think there is a big question as to whether florida is a swing state anymore or not. andrew gillum lost. bill nelson lost. if you can win down in florida, maybe with african-american turnout higher, latino turnout higher. all you need is a north carolina and a georgia. 15 or 16 electoral votes. we have north carolina lined up. as you saw in virginia, which ...

Immigration. they believe seeing polls that americans want stronger border enforcement, tougher measures at the border. he thinks that is a defining issue that separates him from democrats and will help him win the midterms. we dont know. its a week away. but in the presidents calculation, immigration is the key to getting turnout higher, to rallying up your supporters. >> i just want people to keep that in mind as they look at these dramatic moves he may or may not make or is making over the ne...