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Is a huge conspiracy by rudy himself? he wouldnt have thought of it on his own. so i think this is a rough day for the republicans. >> actually, i think we have garrett haake up on capitol hill in the blast radius this morning. >> well, nicole, heres what youll hear in the next 45 minutes. sondland said he was ordered to work with rudy giuliani and he made a point of saying he never talked to the president linking the aid to the investigation. i think you will see republicans hammer that point h...

Burisma and 2016 elections were conditioned on the white house meeting. the aid was my own personal, you know, guess, based on your analogy two plus two equals four. >> so you didnt talk to president trump when ambassador taylor says that thats what you told him? is that your testimony here? >> my testimony is i never heard from president trump that aid was conditioned on an announcement of elections. >> so you never heard those specific words? >> correct. >> right? >> never heard those words. >...

Its the reference to mulvaney that i want to ask you about.s youve testified that mulvaney was aware of this quid pro quo, of this condition that thes ukrainiansit had to meet, that , announcing these public investigations to get the white house meeting, is that right? >> yeah, a lot of people were aware of eait. >> including mr. mulvaney? >> correct. i >> and including the secretary of state? >> correct. >> now, have you seen the acting chief of staffs press conference in which he acknowledged ...

On the part of it that relates to military assistance, though, you dont have any direct evidence from president trump about that part of it, thats your two plus two part of the equation, right? >> right. >> correct? >> thats correct. >> all right. and you understand also that others disagree. yesterday we heard from mr. morrison, ambassador volker, they testified that they didnt see a quid pro quo, do you understand that. >> i understand that. thats what they said. >> that reasonable people coul...

>> i think i referenced -- i didnt say ukraine had to do the investigations. i think i said we heard from mr. giuliani that that was the case. >> so that helped inform your presumption, correct? >> correct. >> so that wasnt really a presumption, you heard it from mr. giuliani. >> not about the aid. i heard about the burisma 2016. >> and as we discussed, two plus two equals four, the aid was there as well? >> that was the problem, mr. goldman. no one told me directly that the aid was tied to anyt...

Out how did this happen? why is it being stopped? and there is -- i mean, here, this is really the two plus two. i mean, were adults. >> what made it go -- i mean, i dont know what made it go but it went on the day that the whistle-blower complaint became public. >> exactly. and, you know, if the republican theory is that it was being withheld because of concern over general corruption and leave aside all of the great arguments as to why thats -- thats ridiculous. lets assume that was the real m...

Brought it up at the september 1st meeting with vice president pence that you were at, right? >> i dont know if he brought it up specifically, but asked where the aid was, i think was more -- i think again very vague recollection because i dont have a readout of the bilateral meeting. but why dont i have my check, essentially. >> and you -- you understood the ukrainians received no credible explanation, is that right? >> i certainly didnt -- couldnt give them one. >> so is this kind of a two plu...

They get the call, they get the meeting, they get the money. its not two plus two, its 0 for 3. ive never seen anything like this. and you told mr. caster that the president never told you that the announcement had to happen to get anything. in fact, he didnt just not tell you that, he said the opposite. the gentleman from texas just read it. you said to the president of the united states what do you want from ukraine? the president, i want nothing. i want no quid pro quo. i want zelensky to do ...

On saturday. were not going to hear about what the real reason the person who is in charge of making sure that foreign aid is delivered, were not going to hear about what actually happened with the foreign aid. wouldnt that have made it a lot easier for you to testify instead of guessing and doing little funny math problems up here, two plus two equals four, its great for all the viewers to hear that. wouldnt it be easier if you just knew exactly why the foreign aid wasnt given? >> it would have...

Tell tens of thousands of people, maybe as many as 100,000 people, when they can get back into their homes? and just as an indication of how many people are waiting, there were lines all over the parking lot last night to get a police escort for just five minutes to get in and see their homes. so, were waiting to find out when those folks will actually be able to get back into their homes today, if they can. and of course, keeping an eye on all the numbers. >> great reporting, sam, though heartb...