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MSNBC Morning Joe November 22, 2019 12:31:00

Experience. but i stayed because -- and the joint chief of staff was there, mark esper was there, that was about syria and what was going on there. thats sort of the way approach it. we do this but we have do our job. i will look to find someone at the white house to work with me. i found them. there are quite a few people over there and we are working together even though this other stuff is going on. >> you said a minute ago you know jim jordan and work with him and dont know what the hell hes...
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MSNBC Morning Joe November 22, 2019 11:04:00

About what she saw. she was careful not to appear partisan. she did talk to the republicans about some of the conspiracy theories theyve been floating and say i study this for a living. none of what youre saying about ukraine meddling in the 2016 campaign is true. she went out and she told the truth, and now, as jonathan says, it will be up to the house and eventually the senate and the american public to decide based on what theyve heard for two weeks whether or not donald trump did something w...
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MSNBC Morning Joe November 22, 2019 11:40:00

Reaches all the way down in the chain of command to make a decision about a warfare device, i think that does undermine good order and discipline as follows. it says to all of those special forces operators, you know, you could go out and report something that you see thats a terrible crime on the battlefield and if you do that it will just get reversed later on. it undermines the ability of the navy chain of command to keep that good order and discipline. and thats why you see secretary of navy...
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MSNBC Morning Joe November 22, 2019 11:41:00

The president of the united states to step into a case like this and to, that in fact, hand down a directive to the navy? >> its extremely rare. it does occur, you see it just like you do in the civilian world, willie, you see where a president and all presidents have done this, issue pardons along the way. but in the military, because we have our own system of justice with the investigators, the juries, the judges are all military, its very rare for a president to step into that process. and in...
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MSNBC Morning Joe November 22, 2019 12:15:00

Like foreign policy being run this way, but i dont see enough here to remove an elected president from office. its an argument republicans may have made from the beginning, may have been more compelling, but they couldnt do it because the president was denying everything. is that a winning argument, something that can carry the day? >> yes. >> bad stuff but not impeachable? >> its the only argument. to your point they should have done it from the beginning. hey, look -- because what weve learned...
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MSNBC Morning Joe November 22, 2019 12:30:00

Quietly by. youre not going to be able to do this without people noticing. >> as a head of the armed services committee, ukraine was right there and weve been talking about it, but theres a lot of other things you oversee. >> you think? >> and your relationship with the white house is critical in addressing those things. what is the relationship now with the white house? are you able to move things? are there things that you are concerned about today other than ukraine that are not happening and...
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MSNBC Morning Joe November 22, 2019 11:05:00

And -- and how it felt to them to see foreign policy diverted by a president in this way. the consequences of that for ukraine, the consequences of that for her sense and the sense of others of what was -- what was right, what was acceptable, what was proper, what was the way the white house is supposed to work. and, you know, you mentioned the american people. ultimately if the needle is going to move from where it is now, which is that the president will be impeached, i believe he will be. i b...
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MSNBC Morning Joe November 22, 2019 12:02:00

I dont want to overstate it, but it just seems to be that everything is known at this point. everything is known over and over again. we heard the same narrative, the same quid pro quo narrative. and, you know, the only -- the only good thing in this whole process, to me, is that the american people have been allowed to see some great public servants who ordinarily dont get any attention for the good work that they do on behalf of the american people. >> jonathan, one of the things dr. hill did ...
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MSNBC Morning Joe November 22, 2019 11:55:00

The taxpayers spent $100 million for him to play golf. you know, its part of his sociopathic behavior. he does not look at voters or people as people. they are just pawns like his father taught him. there are killers and there are losers and he treats the rest of the world as if they dont exist theyre losers. you dont exist as people and you can give me money, you can give me $50 to fight for firemen and i will take it and i will put it in my pocket. >> he shakes down his staff too. bill barr is...
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MSNBC Morning Joe November 22, 2019 12:18:00

Thats ultra constitution -- other words, undermines that constitution and its founding principles and they laid that out. so if bribing a foreign government, holding up foreign assistance to that government to get a personal political favor, this was not, oh, this is part of the foreign policy of the united states. this is part of, you know, moving an agenda in europe. this was helping donald trump get re-elected. if thats not your line, then tell me what your line is. what can this president do...
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